3000 Mile oil change...

[JS + BRZ]

It definitely has some sort of break in additives. I wouldn't have changed it so soon if I didn't track the car twice before hitting 1500miles. Haha

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[RedLeader]

Most Toyota's use a 5K routine oil change, so Toyota dealerships will generally suggest a 5k change because that's what they are used to. Subaru said the car only needs a 7.5k change, so some dealers are actually passing that info to the service techs and they are acting accordingly. Frankly, with most modern oils, 3k is a waste of money on all but a dedicated track/autoX car, your engine isn't shedding metals enough to need a new filter every 3k (unless you've got massive problems) and the oils don't start breaking down until closer to 10-15k or even longer. Obviously, oil is also a time-change item if you don't put a lot of miles on the car due to moisture absorption (water in oil=bad times).

At least that's what I've learned from the toyota/subaru dealer network here, and some mechanics and engineers I trust to know their stuff.

[Dorb]

Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja

What dealer are you using Wagner Subaru?

Subaru of Dayton.
Bought the car at Gerald Subaru in Naperville Il as it was the only place I could find a WRB BRZ back in Nov 2012.

This reminds me, the chick I made my appointment with, I had told her I want to buy the update for the GPS / radio, she said there wasn't one for the BRZ. I asked if she was sure, she said she would double check and call back and let me know. Guess what. Looks like I better make a follow up call.

Maybe I should transfer over to Wagner.

[Dorb]

Originally Posted by RedLeader

Most Toyota's use a 5K routine oil change, so Toyota dealerships will generally suggest a 5k change because that's what they are used to. Subaru said the car only needs a 7.5k change, so some dealers are actually passing that info to the service techs and they are acting accordingly. Frankly, with most modern oils, 3k is a waste of money on all but a dedicated track/autoX car, your engine isn't shedding metals enough to need a new filter every 3k (unless you've got massive problems) and the oils don't start breaking down until closer to 10-15k or even longer. Obviously, oil is also a time-change item if you don't put a lot of miles on the car due to moisture absorption (water in oil=bad times).

At least that's what I've learned from the toyota/subaru dealer network here, and some mechanics and engineers I trust to know their stuff.

Believe me, I don't want to change the oil, just don't want any loop holes in all the extended warranty crap my wife tossed on for the next 7 years.

[teamturbo]

I need to schedule my first oil change... car was purchased June 2013, it's got 7,000 miles flat on it. It's been bothering me because I feel I'm somewhat negligent, but I've been busy.

[Gilluspe]

I'm doing my suggested 7.5 month first change tomorrow because i've only put 1500 miles on it. when i called the dealer to schedule the appointment they insisted that 7500 miles is hyundai not toyota lol. not sure why a toyota dealership knows the Hyundai schedule. She was confused when i told her the manual said 7500, so i just said it was because it was a scion. and she just said "oh okay". w/e she was just a secretary.

This toyota dealer doesn't have scion but I'm not going to the dealer i bought it from because they screwed it up on pre-departure and had to repaint half the car... let me tell you, they did NOT make money on me haha.

[SpeedyJay]

I did my first oil change at 3000km but I chose to do a 'hard break in' and I did my first AutoX at 1000km, so I thought it was time. I raced a buddy of mine in his FRS (both cars with a catback) and was able to noticeably pull on him so I'm quite happy with my break in. Of course it could be more driver then car I guess..

[00NissanNinja]

Originally Posted by Dorb

Maybe I should transfer over to Wagner.

I personally haven't used them yet being new to Dayton, but I read some good things about them on other forums like nasioc. I'll probably take it there if need be. But I plan to do the majority of maintenance myself. People working on my Nissan here literally screwed up more than the fixed.

[Dorb]

Wagner was nice they just seemed a little to laid back for me. When I was pricing the rear spoiler for mine the guy had his feet up on the desk when I walked in and seemed to not really be into the job or have a clue as about what I was asking. Plus their lot has tons of potholes and way too small and crowded. Not sure how they even move cars around. First impression is everything.(I have heard they are expanding or moving, which may help, two people from work here bough from them last year)
I actually ended up having a good time at Subaru Dayton, They gave me a print out of the official sheet Subaru uses on the BRZ for what needs to be done and when. They were all super nice. No regrets now.

[FRS_FIEND]

i used my first free change at 1000 mi. and the dealer was like you dont need to get one till you hit 7500mi. and they were being smart asses like i was another dumbass customer. then i said YEAH but i want it done now full synthetic oil or not i have a preference when i want my oil changes. also i get 3 oil changes at your 7.5k increments whats it matter if i do them sooner. Moral of the story, its your car and your preference dont let the dealer tell you no. cant wait to finishes my oil changes i get free from them. ive never liked other people working on my car. i dont trust them

[paiceyfan]

So, are the free oil changes dependent on dealer or is this mandated by Subaru?

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by paiceyfan

So, are the free oil changes dependent on dealer or is this mandated by Subaru?

I heard it's only for CA dealers. Not sure though.

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[Kostamojen]

Its based off of the dealer. Has nothing to do with Subaru themselves.

[DC2R]

Two years free maintenance for scion via any dealer. Assuming same for Subaru

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