P&L Header install, review and impressions

[reeves]

Originally Posted by ET86

I'm considering these headers as well but not many videos or reviews on them. I want to hear stationary revs at multiple rpm's. Also how is the interior sound, did it go up substantially since the install?

If you opt for the catted version + keep the stock cat-back, it just sounds like a very quiet aftermarket exhaust.. no rasp or drone either. You'll still eliminate the torque dip, and with a good tune you should hit or exceed 200 whp if you're on E85.

[sklimo]

I love my uncatted el from P&L. Paired with full Invidia exhaust and JR SC sounds like a beast!!!!

[skyloran]

@D K @P&L Motorsports does the UEL header give a CEL on the car without a tune?

[P&L Motorsports]

Originally Posted by skyloran

@D K @P&L Motorsports does the UEL header give a CEL on the car without a tune?

Catless, you will more than likely get a CEL with a header. With a catted header, I would say there's an 80% chance you will not have one. You can also try an o2 sensor spacer to reduce your chances of a CEL even more.

Ty @ P&L

[phrosty]

I had P&L install their catback for me, it's very nice. Good people there. If they had a UEL (i'm a sucker for the sound) I'd get it.

[D K]

Originally Posted by skyloran

@D K @P&L Motorsports does the UEL header give a CEL on the car without a tune?

I dont know anything about the uel since its not as efficient as the el, but an O2 sensor is an O2 sensor, regardless.

We didnt get a cel, but everybodys results are different.

But in any case, the whole idea of the header is to make power, so to take full advantage of the header, you should get a tune.

Otherwise its like putting race gas in your tank and hoping for more power.

[D K]

Originally Posted by dp1

Mine with Jackson Racing SC read 272hp 200lbft on a Mustang dyno...pretty smooth curves, no dip

Thats pretty good. What psi?

[D K]

Originally Posted by ET86

I'm considering these headers as well but not many videos or reviews on them. I want to hear stationary revs at multiple rpm's. Also how is the interior sound, did it go up substantially since the install?

I have a custom exhaust which is l.a.h. with the stock header. Going to this header didnt seem to increase the sound level much, if at all.

We had a very long day on the dyno today trying to ncover an unrelated problem.
Now that we found it (fuel pump) the engine revs much quicker than it did before.

Thanks again @P&L Motorsports

[dp1]

Originally Posted by D K

Thats pretty good. What psi?

I don't know, perhaps @JuniorAWD or @Prime Motoring can chime in

[charged86]

weird my header from them did not lose the shiny powdercoated shine

[puma]

Originally Posted by dp1

Mine with Jackson Racing SC read 272hp 200lbft on a Mustang dyno...pretty smooth curves, no dip

who tuned your ECM and are you using ecutek?

[reeves]

Originally Posted by D K

First impression: It was pretty heavy. Nowhere near as heavy as stock, but heavier than a F1 Inconel header. While most people might be concerned with that, I was relieved. It means it was built out of heavy gauge material, which means reliability on the track. The flanges were also quite thick, so I was very happy.
Welds were clean and even, ceramic coating was very well applied.

Hey DK, was the header coated well on the inside as well as outside? I'm thinking of getting ceramic coated in the future and was just curious.

[D K]

Originally Posted by reeves

Hey DK, was the header coated well on the inside as well as outside? I'm thinking of getting ceramic coated in the future and was just curious.

Thats a good question.
Im sure @P&L Motorsports can chime n and give you an answer

[P&L Motorsports]

Originally Posted by reeves

Hey DK, was the header coated well on the inside as well as outside? I'm thinking of getting ceramic coated in the future and was just curious.

We also coat the inside of the pipe when we powder coat. It's a nice clean coat, looks just as good as the outside of the pipe.

Ty @ P&L