follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum

Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-17-2012, 11:35 AM   #43
Lonewolf
Senior Member
 
Lonewolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: Moped
Location: CA
Posts: 4,298
Thanks: 4,897
Thanked 2,128 Times in 1,193 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
A sunroof...nice on occassion, but the added weight, complexity (which often breaks or has issues), chance for leaks (I've had them), diminshed headroom, additional creaks, and cost are not worth it.

I now purposely avoid the trim levels of cars that have sunroofs.
Lonewolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 12:02 PM   #44
StuttterButtter
Yes i have a stutter
 
StuttterButtter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 94 Acura Integra
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 116
Thanks: 13
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I have a sunroof on my 1995 Integra GSR and the only time iv used it was when my A/C was out for a week. And its loud as hell when you open it.

I just think it would take away for what the car is.
StuttterButtter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 12:07 PM   #45
86fanatic
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: auto
Location: us
Posts: 243
Thanks: 5
Thanked 43 Times in 19 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by colHolm View Post
This is a slippery slope... by applying the same logic to other features, this car should have a big V6, be at least a foot longer for more rear passenger space, etc.

They decided this car would be targetted at people who didn't see value in a sunroof, big V6, longer wheel base, rear passenger comfort, etc.

I always worry when people try to justify volumizing a niche car...
I don't buy it, because the same could be said about navigation, leather seats, heated seats, dual zone climate control, Xenon HID head lights, and all the other crap that comes with the BRZ. Yet the BRZ is a very popular model and without it the interest in the car over here would be less.

I appreciate the people who want a comfortable somewhat luxury daily driver and a sun roof is important to some people. It's not like they would have to drastically re-engineer the car to fit a sun roof, both Toyota and Subaru have all the parts just lying around the factory.

Anyway, whether they do or not - I think offering it as an option wouldn't be as bad and sacrilegious as some of you are making it out to be. It's a personal preference that doesn't really affect the weight or vehicle dynamics significantly, so no need to make others feel stupid for wanting it.
86fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 12:38 PM   #46
MmmHamSandwich
You know you want it.
 
MmmHamSandwich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S
Location: RVA
Posts: 705
Thanks: 160
Thanked 327 Times in 154 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
The moonroof on my old Jetta ended up being a $500 fix.

My Si has a moonroof and to be honest I enjoy having it, it is kind of nice to let some sun in through the window up top, and I almost always leave the glass tilted. It creates a pretty decent vacuum and pulls air through the cabin and is FAR quieter than cracking your normal windows. I rarely use A/C so it is nice.

That said I don't want one on my BRZ. So much work went into lowering the cg and a moonroof is just a slap in the face to that philosophy.
MmmHamSandwich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 08:24 PM   #47
OrbitalEllipses
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: Attitude
Location: MD
Posts: 10,046
Thanks: 884
Thanked 4,889 Times in 2,902 Posts
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Regarding sunroofs:

OrbitalEllipses is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to OrbitalEllipses For This Useful Post:
Dave-ROR (05-01-2012)
Old 04-30-2012, 08:30 PM   #48
matt30
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 2004 Subaru WRX
Location: California
Posts: 35
Thanks: 1
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
The roof, I don't think, is even big enough to fit a sunroof. You might at well make the entire top removable. Like the 300ZX

matt30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 08:54 PM   #49
RRnold
2 wheel member
 
RRnold's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Drives: JZA80, 997.1, Taco
Location: SoCal->NorCal
Posts: 4,330
Thanks: 1,318
Thanked 938 Times in 480 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
There are 2 things that add weight and reduce structure that I wouldn't mind if they offered as an options... a hatch and a moon roof!
__________________
RRnold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 08:56 PM   #50
ngabdala
Vortech Supercharged
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: WRB BRZ 6MT LTD
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,447
Thanks: 1,897
Thanked 467 Times in 283 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
You can always go on a diet to compensate for the added sunroof weight.
ngabdala is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 10:01 PM   #51
Turbowned
Senior Member
 
Turbowned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Perf Pack 6MT
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 5,048
Thanks: 1,949
Thanked 1,945 Times in 1,150 Posts
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
The weight is coming out of the center of the car on a diet, not the roof where it can spoil the balance the most. Nice try though. 240Z didn't have sunroof. 260Z didn't have sunroof. 280Z didn't have sunroof. The 80's/90's happened and carmakers were all on cocaine, so the 300ZX's had T-tops because so did Camaros and Firebirds. Then when those cars disappeared the 350Z didn't have a sunroof, and neither does the 370Z. So deal with it!
__________________

Current: 2005 Porsche 911 Carrera S 6MT
Previous: 2 BRZ's, 997 C2S, C5 RS6, C4 S6, B8 S4, GDB STi, S30 240Z, FC3S RX-7 TII, AW11/SW20 MR2, E30 318is/325i, etc.
Turbowned is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Turbowned For This Useful Post:
Dave-ROR (05-01-2012), ngabdala (04-30-2012)
Old 04-30-2012, 10:11 PM   #52
Mr.Jay
Senior Member
 
Mr.Jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Drives: FRS :D
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 2,985
Thanks: 545
Thanked 699 Times in 438 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ngabdala View Post
You can always go on a diet to compensate for the added sunroof weight.
Its not only the weight but the location of the weight. This car is touted as having super low cog so putting weight at the highest point of the car is kind of self defeating


Also losing weight only works if you are fact other wise its call malnutrition
__________________
Out of the FRS game
Mr.Jay is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mr.Jay For This Useful Post:
ngabdala (04-30-2012)
Old 05-01-2012, 02:42 AM   #53
track_warrior
Track Junkie
 
track_warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Faster than the Stig!
Location: TX
Posts: 1,338
Thanks: 530
Thanked 770 Times in 363 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Why get a sunroof when they age they start to leak plus you have to worry about one more electric part on the car that might go wrong, you ad weight to the highest part of the car which upsets the center of gravity, you loose a ton of headroom , plus i would hate to have a big piece of glass over my roof in the event of a roll over. The biggest reason why toyota & subaru decided not to put one on the car would be it would raise production costs and the price of the car would have to be higher even though you would pay is at as an option the base model would probably see an increase of price as well because they would have to produce two different body styles.
__________________
Compensating a heavy car with horsepower is like giving an alcoholic cocaine to sober him up...
track_warrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2012, 04:28 AM   #54
chuie
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: Toyota Camry Touring 1999
Location: Sydney
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I have a sunroof, have had no issues with it, and enjoy it. While it may not be a necessity, it makes those moments when you're with friends, napping in the car, or going or just cruising around just ever so slightly better. It all depends on how much it would compromise the car, that's all.
chuie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2012, 08:13 AM   #55
ngabdala
Vortech Supercharged
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: WRB BRZ 6MT LTD
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,447
Thanks: 1,897
Thanked 467 Times in 283 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
The changes of the weight on the BRZ from the sun roof would take away what the car was made to do.

Plus, I don't want no aftermarket company sawing the roof off my car.

Quote:
Originally Posted by chuie View Post
I have a sunroof, have had no issues with it, and enjoy it. While it may not be a necessity, it makes those moments when you're with friends, napping in the car, or going or just cruising around just ever so slightly better. It all depends on how much it would compromise the car, that's all.
ngabdala is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2012, 09:42 AM   #56
Guff
Now w/ over 400 womprats!
 
Guff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: BRZ LZR
Location: Texas/Illinois
Posts: 4,785
Thanks: 10,452
Thanked 3,420 Times in 1,424 Posts
Mentioned: 301 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Garage
Also, you couldn't Pagoda for helmet clearance.
__________________
"Sweet Subaru, sweet Subaru, send your BRZ unto me, for the roads of the unworthy must be baptized in speed and glory."
- The Ancient BRZ Sacrament
by Zaku
Guff is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
sunroof option? Lydin Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 73 06-08-2012 11:15 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.