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Old 12-28-2012, 06:55 AM   #1
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So I've had my 86 for a week. I have loved every minute of driving it. But I am so scared of daring to push these buttons!

I am not entirely fearful of me not being able to handle the car. I have had professional driver training. Its more that these buttons would seem to cause the car to behave so differently.

I have had a blast running through the hill roads, and it feels so planted, such a go kart. And I cant help but think the amount of times I would have fallen off the road if it wasn't for these electronic aides. It does allow me a little slip, but very little. I can definitely feel when its kicking in, and see/feel it when its majorly interrupted power to the wheels.

Is anyone out there actually daring enough to turn these off on public roads? I have seen threads of crashed cars that usually starts with "so I turned TSC off".

I may eventually take it to the state track and give it a go, other than that I am sticking to, hell no!
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:14 AM   #2
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I would suggest try VSC mode for now as it allows a little extra slip but traction control still steps in when it gets further out.

I have done VSC mode driving through Nebo - Kenilworth and felt quite safe and controllable.

I know this will sound strange but in the wet traction control to me feels very intrusive.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:19 AM   #3
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Find adeserted parking lot or a track and explore the limits. No other way to find out.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:37 AM   #4
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I drive my car 95% of the time, if not more, with them totally off. Especially when doing mountain runs and spirited driving.But even on my commute to work.
Wouldn't dream of leaving them on.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:40 PM   #5
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^^^ same here. Off all the time.
Nothing better than having full control of your car.
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Sounds like your not too confident. I would suggest keeping them on until your learn how to control it.
Especially if you have an auto. Nothing worse than smashing your car or putting anyone else on the road in danger.
The manual can be controlled so much more than an auto.

It will come in time. Just take it easy and push it little by little.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:22 PM   #6
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Unless you are planning on interesting manouvers , leave it all turned on. You never know when you might slip up.. Patch of oil, whatever.
I will turn to VSC sport, when I am going a bit enthusiastically.
Anything that requires TC and VSC off, you shouldn't be doing on the street anyway.
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My car is a manual.

As I said its not that I don't think I can handle it, it's that it would change to car so much. The chance of error increases a lot.

Ill have to try it in a safe environment. I've crashed a car once where I fell off the road trying to be fancy and learnt my lesson there. Luckily all I did was smash my wheel.
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My car is a manual.

As I said its not that I don't think I can handle it, it's that it would change to car so much. The chance of error increases a lot.

Ill have to try it in a safe environment. I've crashed a car once where I fell off the road trying to be fancy and learnt my lesson there. Luckily all I did was smash my wheel.
Easier to recover in a manual. Just take it easy n don't put anyone's lives in danger.

Late night empty Carpark n hope u don't get caught
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It does allow me a little slip, but very little. I can definitely feel when its kicking in, and see/feel it when its majorly interrupted power to the wheels.

Is anyone out there actually daring enough to turn these off on public roads? I have seen threads of crashed cars that usually starts with "so I turned TSC off".
In those situations it will allow you to accelerate a bit more through them going from a major to a minor interruption. The car's handling characteristics don't change but your fun factor will increase provided you are confident in your ability to control it. You've only had the car for a week leave the nannies on and get to know the car a bit more =)
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What are the modes out of curiosity?

VSC Sport just allows a little bit of slip before the safeties kick in?
And if you press traction control it will turn off for the first few gears and then turn back on or something like that?
And also hold traction control off for X seconds and it will be (almost) fully disabled and stay off?
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So everyone saying to leave it on, it is safer, you are just a hoon if you ahve it off, etc... Have you guys never owned a sports car without these things?? .....
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So everyone saying to leave it on, it is safer, you are just a hoon if you ahve it off, etc... Have you guys never owned a sports car without these things?? .....
We r not hoons. We just want to be in full control like you used to be in older cars.
Drive by wire, just doesn't seem like full control. I find it a little annoying with throttle response. Has anyone else noticed a difference ?

Guys have got to keep it on if they r not confident enough or don't know the cars limits yet.
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What are the modes out of curiosity?

VSC Sport just allows a little bit of slip before the safeties kick in?
And if you press traction control it will turn off for the first few gears and then turn back on or something like that?
And also hold traction control off for X seconds and it will be (almost) fully disabled and stay off?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8212

Read the 2nd post
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What are the modes out of curiosity?

VSC Sport just allows a little bit of slip before the safeties kick in?
And if you press traction control it will turn off for the first few gears and then turn back on or something like that?
And also hold traction control off for X seconds and it will be (almost) fully disabled and stay off?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7300

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