Vsc sport mode and trac off

[Victor Draken]

Guys is simple:

Vsc sport increase the limit of when the automatics step in and try to stop your rear to slide.

Everything off is everything off.

I suggest:

Rain: leave everything on unless you are really really good. I have gone in vsc sport mode once when it was really wet and rainy... Well at one roundabout I decided to see how much it would slide... It was not a progressive slide, one second I was straight half a second later I was with the rear by my side ahahah I was ready for it so I just slided for half the roundabout and then continue on my way... But was brutal if you compare to how this car normally start sliding.
With rain for me is: all on. It's too stressful to be ready every turn or acceleration you do to keep the car straight.

Road I don't know:
Vsc sport

Road I'm
Familiar with: all off

I agree with who say that VSC is shit... It's true. It try to counteract over steering and sliding so hard that usually it just makes the car slide on the opposite direction and it does it in a brutal way, it helps only if you start sliding and you didn't want to do it.

Little hint: be careful on tight corner and not good pavement or slightly wet pavement. I have Michelin alpin as winter tyres but I had few very bad under steering experience on tight corner, I know it's because I was not accelerating enough but the traction was cutting the power and the car instead of turning and sliding just went straight and I shit my pants twice ahaha it was my mistake for sure, just reporting my experience.

[Turdinator]

This is a good practical demonstration of the different modes.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8qggahGNH0"]Toyota 86 Traction Control Demonstration [SKIDPAD] - YouTube[/ame]

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Yeah, don't have to be completely stopped, but also cannot be doing 60 mph on the highway. I don't know the exact limit but it has to be about 15 mph or less.

Yes it can. I've done it before at 60mph plus in the BRZ. In the FR-S I test drove, you have to be stopped. Not sure why there's a difference between the twins there.

Originally Posted by FReSh

I have to agree that the sport mode is kind-of a joke. It is good if you are driving spiritedly on a back road that you're unfamiliar with (for those pesky blind hairpins and turns over the crests of hills). However, if you know the road, it will just get in the way all the time. I generally drive with it all off by holding the left button down when I go for a fun drive.

Sport mode seems to be more meant for the AT's with only minor effects on MT.

I just do like I did in my STI: hold button till both modes turn off (in the STI it was just the VDC button: one press turned off VDC, long press for 3 seconds turned off both VDC and TC). It's just an easier button to find/hit in the 86 than in the STI. I only bother with just VSC Sport when I want VDC off but TC on (like dirty roads I'm canyon carving through). I only drive with all nannies on when weather is inclement.

[mixedjuice]

Cool - Answered all my questions.
VSC Sport makes for a great ride!

[mixedjuice]

So VSC on during rain wet roads is good or bad for experienced drivers?

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by mixedjuice

So VSC on during rain wet roads is good or bad for experienced drivers?

Leave it on if you dont like going sideways, turn it off if you wana drift (in a safe location). I leave mine in Sports mode almost 100% of the time, even winter. I do find it stops me from sliding alot, I wish it would let me get a little more sideways before it kicks in though TBH.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by SirBrass

Yes it can. I've done it before at 60mph plus in the BRZ. In the FR-S I test drove, you have to be stopped. Not sure why there's a difference between the twins there.

I've turned mine off at well over 100km/h in my FRS, maybe it's something different with newer model years? (mine is an early build 2013)

Originally Posted by mixedjuice

So VSC on during rain wet roads is good or bad for experienced drivers?

Leave all the nannies fully on (like how it defaults when you start the car) for daily driving.

VSC Sport (pushing the VSC button) gives a tiny bit more slip angle before it steps in, but not much.

TC/VSC fully off (push and hold TC button for ~5 seconds) gives you no protection against sliding (other than ABS), you better be alert and expecting the rear to slide.

[mixedjuice]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

Leave it on if you dont like going sideways, turn it off if you wana drift (in a safe location). I leave mine in Sports mode almost 100% of the time, even winter. I do find it stops me from sliding alot, I wish it would let me get a little more sideways before it kicks in though TBH.

Originally Posted by wparsons

I've turned mine off at well over 100km/h in my FRS, maybe it's something different with newer model years? (mine is an early build 2013)



Leave all the nannies fully on (like how it defaults when you start the car) for daily driving.

VSC Sport (pushing the VSC button) gives a tiny bit more slip angle before it steps in, but not much.

TC/VSC fully off (push and hold TC button for ~5 seconds) gives you no protection against sliding (other than ABS), you better be alert and expecting the rear to slide.

THANKS GUYS!

[mixedjuice]

SPORT MODE Activated at all times is the way i like it,
had the care for about a full tank of gas, and ran it with all nannies on.
Now i used the sports mode a bit, and could really feel the playfulness.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by mixedjuice

SPORT MODE Activated at all times is the way i like it,
had the care for about a full tank of gas, and ran it with all nannies on.
Now i used the sports mode a bit, and could really feel the playfulness.

Sport mode doesn't change anything except the allowed slip angle before VSC stops the fun. Unless you're on the limit and sliding the tail a bit, you won't ever feel the difference.

[churchx]

Eek, how i'd love to have some way of tuning that allowed slip angle. My skills are still not there to slide with TC/VSC off safely enough in all cases, so would love to still have VSC safeguards in place to correct biggest errors that might result in complete spin, especially in very low grip scenarious like on ice .. but interrupting/correcting at higher limits then in stock "sport" settings.
Pitty though i don't see that happening anymore if it hasn't been already done in these years since initial release of tripplets.

[canadaRS1.0]

VSC and traction control are for girls!

maximum drifto!

[Bergen23]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Sport mode doesn't change anything except the allowed slip angle before VSC stops the fun. Unless you're on the limit and sliding the tail a bit, you won't ever feel the difference.

Well, if he has an AT, sport mode holds gears for longer before up shifting and (apparently) rev match downshifts during hard braking, but that's never happened to me before.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by churchx

Eek, how i'd love to have some way of tuning that allowed slip angle.

Pretty sure EcuTek racerom can do this, right @DeliciousTuning @moto-mike ?