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unless you have all of the honda emission systems, wiring harness, ecu, cluster, etc swapped into the car and fully functioning. with an obd2 port that reads the frs/brz vin somehow and has all readiness monitors set as passed, there's no other way. not without doing a bunch of illegal stuff. its way easier to just register the car in another state.
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One of my thoughts has been to get a complete harness and all from a K Honda and literally swap everything wiring related over. Basically install a Honda in a BRZ and then reprogram the VIN on the Honda ECU to reflect the BRZ VIN. This is honestly the leading idea right now because even on the CAN integrated GM ECU cars I'm not seeing any mention of OBD2 being functional in a state inspections sense of the word. Quote:
It's also illegal and impractical. I don't need illegal or questionable sitting on the side of the road at 5 am when I've been binned for speeding. I just want to get my ticket and go, not play fun games about whether or not a $100 ticket is about to turn into a $500+ nightmare. Just so I understand you correctly: You're not currently interested or capable of providing a properly road legal swap solution for the BRZ, correct? If that is the case I will step out of this thread with my OBD2 stuff. I definitely want this swap as it's the first swap that improves most of the kinetics of the car without costing 3x what the car did. It just has to be inspectable. |
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Now on our car there is the downpipe and header that has a cat, but the mid pipe doesn't, so that MAYBE could get modified for fitment with a slap on the wrist or look of :-/ "but I'll let that one go" by the ref. Likely, anything from intake to the last cat needs a CARB sticker or be stock or unmodified (period). The ECU could be hidden enough to fly, but there needs to be an OBDII port that can be checked for being in a ready state, so everything has to work, and also not visually fail.
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*Technically* you could do it legally-ish now, or at least as legal as most any other modification is. MD (most other states have the same allowance) will let you fail the inspection and if you've payed $450 in repairs to get it to pass inspection and it won't you can apply for a waiver. So in a registerable and "drive it down the road with no issues" sense, legal. Provided you've kept a cat on the car (which I will) you're not doing anything that can't be easily defended at a federal level as well. Also no insurance and registration BS which is a major issue with just registering the car elsewhere. That's easily construed as or just considered fraud if anything ever happens. Problem is you're paying ~$500 every two years for smog and there's no guarantee that the state will issue waivers for a car indefinitely. I'll stop hi-jacking this thread but I'm going to figure this shit out. |
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Also, our swap is road legal. depending on where the car is registered. The hoops we would have to jump through, if even possible would drive the cost up well beyond what it is now. Just not worth it in the end. The guys on this forum doing the carb legal LS swaps are going through enough headaches, and that's doing the R&D on their own time and dime.
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And for you or those who are curious... It says on their website that their mounts are for the K24, but that the K20 block could work, but they aren't sure. They suggest adding a K20 head to a K24, if you want a different profile or the performance oriented head. The K24 is cheap compared to a K20A, while offering more benefits because of displacement and perhaps an argument could be made for boosting because of the lower compression, so I think that is why this kit is made around that setup versus a higher compression and more expensive K20 performance series engine.
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The problem is that the K24 only came in FWD transverse orientation, so any CARB legal headers for it (if any exist) will have the exhaust coming out the front right wheel. And I'm not positive, but wouldn't you need a CARB legal header for the chassis, not the engine? I thought the CARB approvals were for a given car, not just global for any car.
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Nah, they look like this, no elbow in the world will help
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