F/I Blowing motors facts

[Andew727]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

36000 miles warranty is based on a new car 0 miles, so who really gets all 36000 miles?


I would buy a factory mustang and save 10k and have more hp before I did that.


Its proven E85 car N/A have made over 200hp, why would anyone buy a s/c kit that makes 243 hp for 5k? 40hp for 5k seems a little steep to me.


Edelbrocks factory tune works with all exhaust system?? so a tune to optimize your 5k investment is required oops no warranty now.

E85, new pulley, race rom features, no warranty now






I wish to everyone good luck who buys one being happy at 243hp and a warranty for 5k you deserve to be happy


I myself would buy a Jackson for 3999 and make 300 plus hp and have my race rom and optimized tune


One more thing you get for your 5k edelbrock s/c that no one has mention is that remaining powertrain factory warranty to 60k bye bye

you can get the hks kit for like $3,000 now, if you add supporting fuel mods you will be much faster than mustangs lol... its fun to let them by and run them down with 2 fingers out the window

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

Edelbrock seems to think their level of boost is safe enough to offer an engine warranty with their kit...

Ya because its only 40hp more than a n/a car on e85


Im sure every s/c company could give you a warranty under these conditions what is that about 5 to 7 psi if that

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Thread title: "F/I Blowing motors facts" fact stock rods are junk in high boost applications?? That's not a fact?? (then why do people replace them?)




Quite the contradiction Aye?

Usually when you talk about how you set records etc., it's like when the dog has all the bark and no bite.

That's so retarded I don't know how to respond to it. Its obvious your here to defend your friend, so whatever, just because I don't drive in a circle doesn't mean it has no merit.....smh

[Sleepless]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

Ya because its only 40hp more than a n/a car on e85

Im sure every s/c company could give you a warranty under these conditions what is that about 5 to 7 psi if that

Well, you made a very hyperbolic statement (as is the one above about the power level) with a title about "facts". So, just keeping the "facts" straight...

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

So to drive this point home their is no real way for anyone to claim a certain psi is safe. NO WAY!!!!!

Tuned properly, 10PSI or more is perfectly "safe" for a lot of people; even those of us that track the car heavily.

Let's keep the hyperbole down a bit and truly stick to facts

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

Well, you made a very hyperbolic statement (as is the one above about the power level) with a title about "facts". So, just keeping the "facts" straight...



Tuned properly, 10PSI or more is perfectly "safe" for a lot of people; even those of us that track the car heavily.

Let's keep the hyperbole down a bit and truly stick to facts

That is a fact people are making over 200hp on e85
I don't consider 10 psi high boost so yes I can see that in the safe area with a small turbo
did you not read the opening post at all I even said I would feel safe at 300hp.....fact

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

Well, you made a very hyperbolic statement (as is the one above about the power level) with a title about "facts". So, just keeping the "facts" straight...



Tuned properly, 10PSI or more is perfectly "safe" for a lot of people; even those of us that track the car heavily.

Let's keep the hyperbole down a bit and truly stick to facts

I would like to expand on this a little, assuming your S/C is putting out close to a factory Subaru wrx turbo.


A Wrx with factory boost limit
Boost and Altitude Correction to Compression

You are running 15.9 PSI of boost at an altitude of 500 feet. Your motor's static compression is 10.6 :1. At this boost level and altitude your effective compression ratio is 21.97 :1, and without altitude correction your compression ratio would be 22.07 :1.


A BRZ with factory bottom end and 10 psi
Boost and Altitude Correction to Compression

You are running 10 PSI of boost at an altitude of 500 feet. Your motor's static compression is 12.5 :1. At this boost level and altitude your effective compression ratio is 20.90 :1, and without altitude correction your compression ratio would be 21.00 :1.


You are actually less building less effective compression then a stock Wrx.
So if your tune is close to a factory spec tune for a wrx I see no reason to say its not safe in a street environment.


Two things to add, one part numbers are different on a brz to a wrx for the connecting rod, so I can not compare them as I don't have a factory wrx rod.


Two the wrx is still breaking rods in factory trim not a lot but some. So tracking or a hotter than stock tune to reach your 300hp I would not call it bullet proof.

[#maverick#]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

Maybe in the future if I do this again.
I'm way past worrying about the grammar police.

Not even grammar police. I'm not being a sarcastic asshole. It just hurt my eyes to read it. If you want more people to read in its entirety, use the bloody enter button.

[#maverick#]

I made 500 hp for a little over 5k, Ive beaten the dog piss out of my car for the last 10k my miles and it seems to be holding up fine. No lift shifting, brake boosting, all the things that would usually fry an engine. The tune plays a significant part in how long an engine lasts.

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by #maverick#

I made 500 hp for a little over 5k, Ive beaten the dog piss out of my car for the last 10k my miles and it seems to be holding up fine. No lift shifting, brake boosting, all the things that would usually fry an engine. The tune plays a significant part in how long an engine lasts.

Stock rods? If so you got a good one and I agree about the tune. If you don't go crazy on the timing it will help along with setting your cam timing to bleed off cylinder pressure some


but if you go all out its another story....


Like I said in my first post I have friends pushing 500 hp and are living there tune is moderate
and then the guys that went all out with 350hp go poof


edit for the guys that are going to ask 500hp on E85 350hp pump gas because of E85 availability 500 drives with sense 350hp total hazard if on the same block

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

Its proven E85 car N/A have made over 200hp, why would anyone buy a s/c kit that makes 243 hp for 5k? 40hp for 5k seems a little steep to me.

Area under the curve, and for some of us out in California, CARB.

A single emissions ticket can mean 4 figures in fines + parting out your entire car + permanently having your VIN flagged for smog checks every 2 years, + downtime to do all this.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by FRS Justin

That's so retarded I don't know how to respond to it. Its obvious your here to defend your friend, so whatever, just because I don't drive in a circle doesn't mean it has no merit.....smh

This thread is funny

[Draco-REX]

I keep spot checking this thread for "facts" and I can never find any... Is this thread beneficial at all, or is it just a flame fest?

[FRS Justin]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Area under the curve, and for some of us out in California, CARB.

A single emissions ticket can mean 4 figures in fines + parting out your entire car + permanently having your VIN flagged for smog checks every 2 years, + downtime to do all this.

Ok I can where you are coming from there with CA emissions

[Phantobe]

There are a lot of "facts" in this thread