Car sways on new tires

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

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Just say no to cheap tires.

Thanks for adding to the thread, and to the O.P. for his reply, too.

I'm a strong believer in saying no to bad tires, but my experience hasn't always been that inexpensive results in bad, nor that expensive results in good. I'm hoping to find something good that is inexpensive, that's all. Michelins are good tires.. and also expensive. Rikens are made by Michelin (or a least owned by them, and made in some the same factories.. Indonesia, I believe), but don't have the Michelin "surcharge" for the name. Just hoping they might have some of the Michelin quality.... ?

Sorry for the thread drift.. this thread was about the Raptor HR, which is an all-season "grand touring" tire, and I was asking about the Raptor ZR, which is a very different summer performance tire. I've attached pics of both, and am still wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the ZR, specifically.. maybe I should start a new thread.

Thanks..

[thecarfilmer]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Thanks for adding to the thread, and to the O.P. for his reply, too.

I'm a strong believer in saying no to bad tires, but my experience hasn't always been that inexpensive results in bad, nor that expensive results in good. I'm hoping to find something good that is inexpensive, that's all. Michelins are good tires.. and also expensive. Rikens are made by Michelin (or a least owned by them, and made in some the same factories.. Indonesia, I believe), but don't have the Michelin "surcharge" for the name. Just hoping they might have some of the Michelin quality.... ?

Sorry for the thread drift.. this thread was about the Raptor HR, which is an all-season "grand touring" tire, and I was asking about the Raptor ZR, which is a very different summer performance tire. I've attached pics of both, and am still wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the ZR, specifically.. maybe I should start a new thread.

Thanks..

I ordered the ZRs in 235/40/18 a few weeks ago and they seem fine to me. Haven't noticed anything odd ever since they were mounted.

[Slammillionaire]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Thanks for adding to the thread, and to the O.P. for his reply, too.

I'm a strong believer in saying no to bad tires, but my experience hasn't always been that inexpensive results in bad, nor that expensive results in good. I'm hoping to find something good that is inexpensive, that's all. Michelins are good tires.. and also expensive. Rikens are made by Michelin (or a least owned by them, and made in some the same factories.. Indonesia, I believe), but don't have the Michelin "surcharge" for the name. Just hoping they might have some of the Michelin quality.... ?

Sorry for the thread drift.. this thread was about the Raptor HR, which is an all-season "grand touring" tire, and I was asking about the Raptor ZR, which is a very different summer performance tire. I've attached pics of both, and am still wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the ZR, specifically.. maybe I should start a new thread.

Thanks..

I was looking at the ZR's too and came accross this thread that scared me a bit:

https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...en-raptor.html

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

I was looking at the ZR's too and came accross this thread that scared me a bit:

https://mbworld.org/forums/wheels-ti...en-raptor.html

Thanks.. just read the thread. It's from 2009, and lots can happen in eight years, but given the importance of tires in the whole driver-to-road interface, and the desire to keep people alive who are in and around my car, it probably makes little sense to "take a chance" or experiment with tires that aren't a known-good commodity. I'll probably pass on the Rikens. Of course, for every horror story I'm sure there's hundreds of contented Riken owners who don't feel the need to post positive comments.

See.."Drove today.. did not crash."

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by thecarfilmer

I ordered the ZRs in 235/40/18 a few weeks ago and they seem fine to me. Haven't noticed anything odd ever since they were mounted.

Thanks. Would be very interested in following up with you once you get a few thousand on them.

[ermax]

I never buy junk tires but when I first leave the tire shop on brand new tires it always feels floaty. I’ve alway writen it off as the old tires having fatigued sidewalls over a long period of time where you don’t notice and then when you get new tires you feel the dramatic change. New tires are very rigid and give a more direct feel. After a week or so this sensation usually goes away for me.

The pulling left and right is probably alignment assuming the tire pressures are even. When the alignment is off on a car the tires typically wear unevenly which often masks the bad alignment. Throw some new tires on and the bad alignment isn’t masked anymore. I’d be willing to bet the OP’s used tires were corded on the inside.

[Slammillionaire]

UPDATE:
I put a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires on over the weekend and holy shit, what a difference. Feels like a brand new car.

[kch]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

UPDATE:
I put a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires on over the weekend and holy shit, what a difference. Feels like a brand new car.

Yep, I (begrudgingly) got some AS3s when I moved up here to Seattle and was surprised at how good they felt for an all-season tire.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

UPDATE:
I put a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires on over the weekend and holy shit, what a difference. Feels like a brand new car.

Originally Posted by kch

Yep, I (begrudgingly) got some AS3s when I moved up here to Seattle and was surprised at how good they felt for an all-season tire.

I have been running the AS3+ for two years now. I love them for the type of driving I do. A lot of guys don't like them though.

[Slammillionaire]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I have been running the AS3+ for two years now. I love them for the type of driving I do. A lot of guys don't like them though.

Having one set of wheels for the foreseeable future and living in NJ pretty much forced me to get these over the PS4s, but these things have more grip than any other A/S tire I've used before. Why don't people like them?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Slammillionaire

Having one set of wheels for the foreseeable future and living in NJ pretty much forced me to get these over the PS4s, but these things have more grip than any other A/S tire I've used before. Why don't people like them?

Mostly because they have more grip! Some also don't like the slightly softer sidewall but the softness is one of the compromises for an AS tire.
I use mine up until we start getting consistently freezing nights and then switch over to actual winter tires. They are called all season but they really are only three season tires. Don't push them hard in deep snow or very cold temperatures.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Mostly because they have more grip! Some also don't like the slightly softer sidewall but the softness is one of the compromises for an AS tire.
I use mine up until we start getting consistently freezing nights and then switch over to actual winter tires. They are called all season but they really are only three season tires. Don't push them hard in deep snow or very cold temperatures.

How much snow do you think they can handle if any? 3-5 inches? I'm looking to replace my summer PS2s with all seasons so I can prolong the time till I need blizzaks each season

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

How much snow do you think they can handle if any? 3-5 inches? I'm looking to replace my summer PS2s with all seasons so I can prolong the time till I need blizzaks each season

They tested fine in one inch but I have personally never tried them in the snow. I would think OK in a couple of inches if not real cold out and sticking to city streets. In temperatures much below freezing they just get too hard and slippery. They have been prefect for me until I switch to the full winters.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

They tested fine in one inch but I have personally never tried them in the snow. I would think OK in a couple of inches if not real cold out and sticking to city streets. In temperatures much below freezing they just get too hard and slippery. They have been prefect for me until I switch to the full winters.

Good to know