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Old 01-06-2015, 12:36 PM   #29
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Im hopefully going to get skunk2 this week the price/quality is perfect
What made you go with that set-up?
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:40 PM   #30
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What made you go with that set-up?
Well first off they have a high reputation and quality products. I purchased their header last month and was very impressed. Plus customer service is great. After reading about it seemed pretty well thought out and designed.
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Well first off they have a high reputation and quality products. I purchased their header last month and was very impressed. Plus customer service is great. After reading about it seemed pretty well thought out and designed.
Is there front camber adjustment?
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@msugi07 here is the thing to keep in mind. Spring rates don't really determine how nice a set-up rides, its the dampening. Good dampners are expensive which is why suspension is one of those areas where you get what you pay for. You could spend $4K on JRZ or Tein SRC with 10k/12k setups and probably ride smoother than a set of $1K BCs with 7k/8k springs.

Ask around Friday at the Dublin meet as there will be plenty of different suspension pieces, and many wil be willing to give you a ride to see for yourself. The stock dampners are very good, which is why a proper spring setup in this car is fantastic and really all thats needed if you just want a drop for the street and get a little performance increase.

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18x9.5 will rub the inside front springs and perches. You'll need coilovers.
This is actually not true, I am running 18 X 9.5 +38 with the stock shocks and H&R springs and they fit fine with 245/35 tires.

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The wheels I want to run are 18x9.5 +35 but have been told without coilovers they will rub. So that's another reason why I'm looking into coils instead of springs. If they won't rub the suspension then hell I might go that route. I just want to eliminate some of that wheel gap, but not planning on slamming my car.
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have been through a number of 'coilover'/spring/sleeve setups on my old cars and i realized that i never adjusted the height at all after i set it to where i wanted it... granted, i have never tracked my cars and thus never felt compelled to get them corner balanced (that would be where i could see coilovers being more beneficial). also always had to check the collars to make sure they were tight from time to time/had odd noises and whatnot...

for my own personal uses and in my own personal experiences, a set up with quality springs and quality dampers worked the best. comfortable street set up and never had to worry about checking for loose collars, didn't have to mess with damper settings...

that's probably what i will end up going with when i modify the set up on my frs... for now, stock feels great and is plenty fun
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@msugi07 here is the thing to keep in mind. Spring rates don't really determine how nice a set-up rides, its the dampening. Good dampners are expensive which is why suspension is one of those areas where you get what you pay for. You could spend $4K on JRZ or Tein SRC with 10k/12k setups and probably ride smoother than a set of $1K BCs with 7k/8k springs.

Ask around Friday at the Dublin meet as there will be plenty of different suspension pieces, and many wil be willing to give you a ride to see for yourself. The stock dampners are very good, which is why a proper spring setup in this car is fantastic and really all thats needed if you just want a drop for the street and get a little performance increase.

Short list for your budget:

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Swift sport springs
RCE Yellows
Mann Engineering springs

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Tein Street Flex
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Used RCE zero
You going to the meet Friday?
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Is there front camber adjustment?
Im not 100% sure but the pics look like it does. The spring rates are 6k which I believe is very close to stock.
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Im not 100% sure but the pics look like it does. The spring rates are 6k which I believe is very close to stock.
That's like twice as much as stock.


In the $1k range....

If you really must have a bigger drop (more than around an inch), I'd recommend coilovers. You should get a set with quality valving...that's the biggest priority and unfortunately the hardest part to get good information about. Nothing around $1k is going to have great valving. ST and Bilstein PSS will be pretty good but won't work well for drops over 1.5 inches. For big drops, you should consider BC or whatever else...that's not my thing.

For a primarily street driven car with a drop of 1 inch or less, springs are good. For $1k you can build a good handling set-up that still rides well and is functional. I would prefer this route over cheap coilovers but I don't need/want a big drop.

If you do track days or auto-x, you should consider increasing your suspension budget. You can still have fun stock or with good springs, but coilovers or springs with at least a few toppings will go a long way.

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The spring rates are 6k which I believe is very close to stock.
You believe wrong.

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I noticed that they use a twin tube vs a mono. Pro and cons on that???
Have you heard of Google?

http://www.tein.co.jp/e/special/ni_toryu/index.html
"It is not a matter of which design is better than the other, but providing the most suitable design for the purpose is."

Don't get caught up in This is better than That. Shades of gray.There are twin tube dampers that are better than cheap mono-tubes. Also don't get caught up in brand names. Tein's $700 dampers are not the same as their $14,000 dampers.
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You going to the meet Friday?
I usually do, but the GF is sick so hopefully she gets over it in time. If I do go I'm on RCE yellows with stock sturta and can give you a ride along.
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I usually do, but the GF is sick so hopefully she gets over it in time. If I do go I'm on RCE yellows with stock sturta and can give you a ride along.
Nice!!! Hope your GF gets better and you come out.

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after driving many different set ups, I`ve learned that there are no comfortable coilovers for under $3000. if the maximum amount you can spend is a $1000, you should figure out what you want the most: comfort, drop, or performance. I don't think you can get all three for the $1k budget. and make sure to go for drives/rides in different set ups. what is comfortable for others may not be the best for you.

or, you can do what I did. take your gf/wife/significant other in a ride with a car set up with the Ohlins DFV kit. Now that she had a taste of a car that is way more comfortable and feels more planted (safer feeling), she is convinced that the more expensive kits are worth the investment
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