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Old 08-12-2014, 12:15 PM   #1
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Track Mods - Plan

Trying to decide where to go from here on modifying the car to be "better" and more reliable at the track. Here is the short list of what I have on the car so far:

Engine/Cooling
Stock

Brakes
Carbotech XP10/XP8
StopTech Braided Lines
Touge Factory Front Brake Duct Kit
KNS Titanium Brake Pad Shims
Porsche GT3 Lower Air Guides
GrimSpeed MC Brace
Motul RBF600

Suspension/Steering/Tires
Perrin Solid Steering Rack Mounts
Bridgestone RE-11A Tires (215/45/17)
Enkei RPF1 Wheels
-1.4* Front Camber


At this point, I'm not sure where I want to go next. Things in mind are brake ducting/cooling, oil cooler, and RSR Coilovers. I'd really like an oil cooler, but nervous about warranty issues should I run into a problem. I know there are a million swaybars and braces available, but I haven't seen any hard convincing data that they are worth my time. The RSR Coilovers seemed promising and designed exactly for what I'm interested in. I haven't seen any brake fade yet at tracks like Autobahn or Road America, but as I learn to drive harder/faster...I'd like to be on top of the brake setup and head off any potential issues.

I'm very particular about the parts I put on the car and try not to hurt the balance or put on unnecessary braces, sways, etc. Willing to discuss this if there is good information out there from more experienced folks.

What do you guys think?

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Old 08-12-2014, 01:49 PM   #2
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Trying to decide where to go from here on modifying the car to be "better" and more reliable at the track. Here is the short list so far:

Engine/Cooling
Stock

Brakes
Carbotech XP10/XP8
StopTech Braided Lines
GrimSpeed MC Brace
ATE SuperBlue (switching to Motul RBF600)

Suspension/Steering/Tires
Perrin Solid Steering Rack Mounts
Bridgestone RE-11A Tires (215/45/17)
Enkei RPF1 Wheels


At this point, I'm not sure where I want to go next. Things in mind are brake ducting/cooling, oil cooler, and RSR Coilovers. I'd really like an oil cooler, but nervous about warranty issues should I run into a problem. I know there are a million swaybars and braces available, but I haven't seen any hard convincing data that they are worth my time. The RSR Coilovers seemed promising and designed exactly for what I'm interested in. I haven't seen any brake fade yet at tracks like Autobahn or Road America, but as I learn to drive harder/faster...I'd like to be on top of the brake setup and head off any potential issues.

I'm very particular about the parts I put on the car and try not to hurt the balance or put on unnecessary braces, sways, etc. Willing to discuss this if there is good information out there from more experienced folks.

What do you guys think?
I wouldn't worry about the SS brake lines. Also I would definitely use a separate set of pads/rotors and better pads (Raybestos ST43 or ST42 pads and Centric Premium blank rotors are good options) and add some sort of brake ducting.
Also what size of RPF1 are you planning to get? 17x9 +35mm is way to go since in future you may fit wider tires on to them
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I'd recommend Speigler lines over Stoptech.

I'd also recommend the same brake pad compound front/rear.

The oil cooler won't affect warranty. If you're REALLY worried, use the OEM FA20DIT oil cooler. It's not enough, but it's far better than nothing.
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Use Torque RT700 brake fluid
Use Yokohama Advan AD08R 225/45/17
Must have an oil cooler - recommend Jackson Racing

Recommend RaceSeng front top hat and SPL Pro rear LCA with eccentric lockout bolt

Contact CSG for a package deal, they know their sh#t

Use stock suspension - superior than 99% of the coilover out there

Use stock sway bars - perfectly balanced

No need brake cooling ducts
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hey i use 999 mang.... still no need brake cooling ducts
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I should clarify that the list above is what's already on the car.

Just looking to see what's best from this point forward. Sounds like brake ducting and oil cooling is the next step.
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Oil cooler would be the next step I recommend.
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Oil cooler would be the next step I recommend.
Any particular setup? I've seen other threads with recommendations ranging from an OEM style sandwich plate to an independent cooler. Then there are the amount of rows. Car will stay N/A.

EDIT: Interested in the Jackson Racing cooler. I imagine installation is simple, since it uses factory mounting points.

1. Any kind of oil pressure drop?

2. Does it affect coolant temps at all being in front of radiator?

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I really enjoy my RSR's (Sports-i). The I use 9 clicks up front and 6 in the rear, starting from full soft. Up to this point I have not adjusted camber. I will be adjusting to the 1.5 degrees camber soon (only two settings, 0 and -1.5). They have optional pillow-ball top hats for more camber adjustments if needed. However, I most likely won't be purchasing those.
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I really enjoy my RSR's (Sports-i). The I use 9 clicks up front and 6 in the rear, starting from full soft. Up to this point I have not adjusted camber. I will be adjusting to the 1.5 degrees camber soon (only two settings, 0 and -1.5). They have optional pillow-ball top hats for more camber adjustments if needed. However, I most likely won't be purchasing those.
Have you used them on the track? If so, what are your thoughts between stock track and RSR track experience.
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Have you used them on the track? If so, what are your thoughts between stock track and RSR track experience.
Yes, 5 times so far. RSR USA let me test drive their FRS shop car to test the suspension before I purchased. I like companies that are willing to go out of their way to let you test their products. I like the simplicity and the urethane bushing are super comfortable and quiet. I have more grip on low/medium speed turns and with uneven payment no doubt. Not yet tested high speed turns on the track > 50mph. I will be on the big tracks a few times before the end of the year.

I never tracked with full stock - However I did one time with just Swift springs (BRZ). Huge difference with any adjustable coilovers. Daily driving is more comfortable in my opinion than when I had lowering springs.
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Any particular setup? I've seen other threads with recommendations ranging from an OEM style sandwich plate to an independent cooler. Then there are the amount of rows. Car will stay N/A.

EDIT: Interested in the Jackson Racing cooler. I imagine installation is simple, since it uses factory mounting points.

1. Any kind of oil pressure drop?

2. Does it affect coolant temps at all being in front of radiator?
We prefer the Jackson Racing setup as it uses the largest oil cooler core, and uses factory holes (no cutting/drilling). One difference is that it uses its own bracket to support the oil cooler.
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Along with an oil cooler, would it be wise to install a catch can or air/oil separator? My other car is a supercharged V8 and it was essential to add a catch can due to excessive blow-by.


Is it still wise to have one on an N/A BRZ?
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