Airplane Cockpit Switches for Limited BRZ

[carma143]

I was disappointed when it turned out those "switches" for the airflow settings aren't really switches.



If someone was able to make small length switches like is seen in Airplane cockpits I would buy them in a heartbeat.


Either the triangle or cylinder shaped switches would be fine. (Although I would prefer the cylinder shaped ones.)

If there ends up being a real possibility of a product like this, make sure to include the same/similar labels already present and that flipping up is on and flipping down is off.

[retoocs]

You can't change the switch logic of going from momentary to latched switches. It wouldn't be hard to build a panel using momentary switches though. You just won't like the price. The regular run of the mill toggle switches are about $40 each. Switch/annunciators like for the APU in your picture are about $500+ depending on the configuration. You would also need a $400 crimp tool to crimp the contacts onto the wires.

[Pitman]

Originally Posted by retoocs

You can't change the switch logic of going from momentary to latched switches. It wouldn't be hard to build a panel using momentary switches though. You just won't like the price. The regular run of the mill toggle switches are about $40 each. Switch/annunciators like for the APU in your picture are about $500+ depending on the configuration. You would also need a $400 crimp tool to crimp the contacts onto the wires.

Not sure where you buy your toggle switches from, but just to give an idea as to the more realistic price of them:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/search?text=Toggle+Switches

[raptor87]

High quality switches are more expensive

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...FWho7AodjFMAOQ

[carma143]

Originally Posted by retoocs

You can't change the switch logic of going from momentary to latched switches. It wouldn't be hard to build a panel using momentary switches though. You just won't like the price. The regular run of the mill toggle switches are about $40 each. Switch/annunciators like for the APU in your picture are about $500+ depending on the configuration. You would also need a $400 crimp tool to crimp the contacts onto the wires.

Would it not be possible to make the switches give the same output for flipping up and down? In the same way, the current "switches" probably give the same output every time they are pressed down, and then the computer inside just tells the car to perform the opposite action that it is currently performing.

Of course one would have to match the physical position (up or down) of the modded switch with the function the car is currently performing (on or off).

With my limited knowledge this could work, even if a OR/AND gate is needed.

[Bigbadvoodooguru]

Momentary vs latched switches. If you switched it up, when you flick the switch its like you were holding down your stock button forever. Not sure what that would do.

[NWFRS]

Looks the the same to me...

[retoocs]

Originally Posted by Pitman

Not sure where you buy your toggle switches from, but just to give an idea as to the more realistic price of them:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/search?text=Toggle+Switches

My day job involves designing aircraft electrical systems. Aircraft grade switches are way more expensive, but offer way better tactile feedback. You won't mistakenly flip a switch on.

Originally Posted by carma143

Would it not be possible to make the switches give the same output for flipping up and down? In the same way, the current "switches" probably give the same output every time they are pressed down, and then the computer inside just tells the car to perform the opposite action that it is currently performing.

Of course one would have to match the physical position (up or down) of the modded switch with the function the car is currently performing (on or off).

With my limited knowledge this could work, even if a OR/AND gate is needed.

Without having to dig through the schematic, I suspect the current switches just closes the circuit, while the computer cycles through the functions through the software. You won't be able to use a mechanical latched switch to tell the computer what to do, at least not easily.

Modern aircraft don't use too many toggle switches anymore. They all moved to push button style switches for just about everything.



They do make these in momentary, but they are $500+ each.

[aznatama]

In short:

- It's still a switch, just OP was expecting toggle switched, when in fact they're momentary switches.

- Cannot change to toggle switch unless you use some sort of complicated system or a bunch of relays to make it act like a momentary switch.

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by NWFRS

Looks the the same to me...

Spyker?

[D_Thissen]

Originally Posted by retoocs

My day job involves designing aircraft electrical systems. Aircraft grade switches are way more expensive, but offer way better tactile feedback. You won't mistakenly flip a switch on.




Without having to dig through the schematic, I suspect the current switches just closes the circuit, while the computer cycles through the functions through the software. You won't be able to use a mechanical latched switch to tell the computer what to do, at least not easily.

Modern aircraft don't use too many toggle switches anymore. They all moved to push button style switches for just about everything.



They do make these in momentary, but they are $500+ each.

Sounds right a $20 switch costs and arm and a leg because its 'aviation certified' lol

[Grymm86]

Does anyone else remember the auto show prototypes having these style of switches? w/ curved metal bars in between them?