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06-30-2012, 11:45 PM | #1 |
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Extra wiring (and a Usb surprise)
When I test drove my car I saw there was some extra wire harnesses in the glove box and I told my friend (who was the salesman) that I wanted all of it with the car. Although, I have no idea what any of it is for except one looks like an antenna adapter of some sort. Anyone have any ideas?
And my friend also synced up my phone for me while I was there and when I went to plug it in to charge it, it didn't work. At first I though, damn that sucks the usb doesn't charge but when I tried to run an Ipod through it I couldn't get it to work no matter what I tried, and I tried alot lol! Frustrated and thinking of how I saw some people were getting cars with no stereo installed and seeing pics on Autotrader of cars with no stereo I came to the conclusion that they must be installed at the dealer and maybe they forgot some of the wiring I found in the glovebox. So out came the stereo... And here's the nice surprise I found... Missed one. D'oh! Plugged in (which was a stretch) and all was well in usb land. But I didn't get to use any of the mystery wiring, any ideas on what they are?
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wiring for the brz? mine didnt have any of those lol
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I believe all the Scion's use the same radio...Maybe those were the wires for the iq/tc/xb/xd? The dealer probably didn't know what they went to so they left them in your glove box.
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ah ha, the unit in your car uses that third harness! I knew I was thinking that that 3rd harness carried USB & Aux. Probably also carries sat radio antenna or something as well...
I was asking this question, but no replies... http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10331 |
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They're probably adapter harnesses to install a different factory radio.
Robbie, can you post pictures viewing each of the connectors straight-on (and without the bags)? (so we can see the shape of each one and its pins) Also, the next time you pull your radio, it would be helpful to see one of the back (with everything unplugged), and the label on the top or bottom (showing the model numbers, and FCC ID, if it has one). Here's one of the front (from MotorTrend's FR-S 'First Look'): ADDED: Looks like Kiteless found a much better picture (posted here). Front model number is ALCP-W12U T1819. Added external photos document from FCC's site.
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I didn't unplug anything, just plugged in what they forgot I did notice there were RCA plugs on the back of this stereo (base unit). Here's some pics of the mystery wires, the one on the far left has the same style plug as what I plugged in, the third pic is a close up of the opposite side of it...
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The RCA jacks are line outs for a subwoofer. They're actually mentioned in Scion's user guide (see link several posts after Kiteless's post, here).
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Looking at the harnesses in the first picture... The first adapter harness (left) converts to a different style of OEM USB connector.
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If you can post close-up pictures looking at the top and bottom of the adapter with the 28-pin plug, I should be able to map out what pins the radio uses and where they connect on the 8- and 20-pin sockets.
Also, see my earlier post -- I added a PDF from the FCC's site that shows pictures of every side of the radio (including the rear with nothing plugged in ).
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The one on the right is def sat radio harness. Other one looks like CD changer connecters . |
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Ah hah. Once I get my radio, that 28pin connector is what I need to wire up the stock Mic & Aux to the aftermarket headunit.
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The 20 pin portion appears to be the normal hookup (4 speakers, ignition, power, etc) and the 8 pin portion looks to be Subaru's Aux input. If I caught another Scion post correctly, there's 5 wires on the aux jack, but only 3 are used and the other 2 are for detection. It would be really nice if someone could confirm whether the built-in jack is a TRS or TRRS connector. If it turned out to be a TRRS connector, then video could be routed with the appropriate wiring. I want to say this is the 8pin aux hookup: http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4...plant8paux.jpg linked from: http://ae64.com/NaviTransplantharness.htm |
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No, it's definitely not. It's a reverse antenna adapter that fits the radio's AM/FM antenna socket. Converts to a Motorola socket (I've confirmed that from other pics I found).
That portion is identical to a Scosche reverse antenna adapter (minus the extra branch with the black rectangular plug): Here are a couple of pics of the factory AM/FM antenna plug in the FR-S: and...
On the adapter Robbie found, the portion with the 10-pin power/speaker plug/socket simply passes all but one of the wires straight through (pin 1 to 1, 2 to 2, etc.), and it changes how the power antenna control lead is wired.
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The 8-pin is like one some Subarus use, but pin-out and function is different. That's why I'm hoping Robbie can post a few more pics looking straight down at the wires, so I can figure out which pin connects to which. Quote:
Besides, the ALCP-W12U T1819 doesn't support video. The Impreza/Forester Fujitsu Ten nav doesn't do video on the aux input (no pins for it), and I suspect the aux input on the FR-S/BRZ FT nav is the same way.
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