$400 dollar gross polluter!!

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by GotBRZ1691

Got out of another when I first bought the car too, still had dealer plates. Told the sheriff that the dealership had forgot to include the front plate kit.



So still could get a ticket but it was never mentioned any other time I was pulled over for speeding etc.

You're still getting pulled over. I don't care about the ticket I'm trying to avoid cops poking around my car.


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[Wraith]

The last time I got pulled over I told the cop " No officer I don't want to pop my hood" and then they took me out of the car. And hand cuffed me and sat me down on the curb. And proceeded to pop my hood and starts writing me a ticket. I was 28 / 29yrs old then and the fucking cop's partner asked me if I was a ganster. And what set I was from. Told him go fuck himself and write me my fucking ticket even though; what they did was illegal search. And they fucking reffed me and gave me a s $300 dollar fine.


End of the story... I fucking hate cops the over step their bounds. And your screwed no matter what with these assholes. So might as well see if you can just pay the fine and deuce out...

[winsometang]

ended up losing the case... thats 500 dollars down the drain

[White64Goat]

Is this ticket an inspection ticket or a regular ticket? If it's a regular ticket, the clerical error might get you off since the brand of car would be on the registration (if he even looked at it) and the missing numbers from the license plate is for sure a goof. It never hurts to go to court. Dress nice, shows respect to the court. If you can find any other vehicles with the same numbers/letters on their plates you could take pics and take them to court and say that you found X numbers of cars with the same numbers/letters as yours (the ones that are on the ticket) and point out that since there are numbers/letters missing, which vehicle is this ticket for? Cop goofed, whether the Judge will dismiss it or not is another question. Obviously if the ticket is missing numbers/letters how can the cop prove he wrote YOU up?

Now the cop or judge could try and be tricky and ask if you remember being pulled over and I'd answer no, I don't drive a Subaru.

If your tag is (example) ABC 001 and the cop wrote down ABC and not the 001, there are 998 other cars out there that start with ABC and I'd be willing to bet that more than one of them is a Scion or Subaru.

If the cop car has video in it, this is probably all moot.......

[Tt3Sheppard]

CA cops=pain in the ass? Holy wow

[WolfpackS2k]

The price you pay to live in California. I don't care how nice some parts of that state are, I could never deal with such an oppressive government.

GL!

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Wraith

what they did was illegal search.

If it was, how did you resolve this?

[totopo]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

The price you pay to live in California. I don't care how nice some parts of that state are, I could never deal with such an oppressive government.

GL!

Why are people on this forum so blase about breaking smog laws??? I mean you selfishly spew out tons more crap out of your exhaust for no significant benefit. A few hp that doesn't effect you 99% of the time you commute maybe?? and better "sound"???!?! and people find this reasonable?!?!?!?!

There is a reason that california has such tight emission laws and why it basically spearheaded the whole emissions standards that rule the industry today. And they worked.

http://www.lacarguy.com/green/articl...-last-50-years

Cali has such a density of cars that air quality blew goats. And now it doesn't. The fact of the matter is the laws worked.

decreasing smog can add YEARS to your life.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/25/up...ger-lives.html


I don't understand the hubris of the members of this forum who think it's a-okay for them to break the law because they are just "one person" I don't want to breath in your extra emissions. You are just being a selfish brat. If you want to make your car not street legal, then just go trailer it to the tracks to have fun with it.

[fatalelement]

Originally Posted by mav1178

If it was, how did you resolve this?

You go to court. Evidence obtained through an illegal search is inadmissible. However, without knowing his specific case, I can't say it was an illegal search. If your exhaust is race-loud, a cop can definitely pop your hood without a warrant. It's called probable cause.

In OPs case, though, it wasn't, because he popped the hood. If a cop asks you to let him search your home for no reason and you do, it's not illegal.

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[fatalelement]

Originally Posted by White64Goat

Now the cop or judge could try and be tricky and ask if you remember being pulled over and I'd answer no, I don't drive a Subaru.

If your tag is (example) ABC 001 and the cop wrote down ABC and not the 001, there are 998 other cars out there that start with ABC and I'd be willing to bet that more than one of them is a Scion or Subaru.

If the cop car has video in it, this is probably all moot.......

No offense, but this is incredibly bad advice.

Recommending perjury (a FELONY) in terms of "do you remember being pulled over" is beyond ridiculous. Also, a perjury conviction will be admissible against you in court automatically for the next 10 years as evidence of bad character in any possible case involving you. Also, a felony conviction will ruin your life. Why would you ever be this dumb?

Furthermore, the license plate number is so far from relevant here. The cop has your DRIVER'S LICENSE, registration, and insurance. Unless your argument is that someone stole your ID and was driving a different car this is a wash. Also, in CA, a fair amount of highway cops have car cameras anyway.

But the clerical error does nothing to refute the fact that YOU were driving the car. You can do a crime in someone else's car and it's still your problem.

I am constantly amazed by the amount of people willing to lie in court to avoid dealing with their own mistakes.

As usual, insert the standard disclaimer that I'm not giving you legal advice and I'm not your attorney, yadda yadda.

EDIT: The basic reasoning issue I missed because I was so focused on the finer points is that it is a FACT that he was pulled over by the officer.

How do we know this? BECAUSE HE IS HOLDING A TICKET ISSUED TO HIM AT THE SCENE! So that pretty much erases any chance he has of pulling a "Shaggy" and arguing "it wasn't me"...

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[mav1178]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

The price you pay to live in California. I don't care how nice some parts of that state are, I could never deal with such an oppressive government.

Yes. But also because we have a serious air pollution issue here.

See below of old EPA ozone limits vs new EPA ozone limits, and look at CA vs the rest of the country. The source is from LA Times here: http://spreadsheets.latimes.com/epa-...one-pollution/

-alex

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by mav1178

If it was, how did you resolve this?

this was years ago ... When I was like 28 / 29 yr old ... I'm 40 now

I ended up paying the $300 fine

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Yes. But also because we have a serious air pollution issue here.

See below of old EPA ozone limits vs new EPA ozone limits, and look at CA vs the rest of the country. The source is from LA Times here: http://spreadsheets.latimes.com/epa-...one-pollution/

-alex

Oh great now all the "It is all fake there are no problems" guys are gonna flock here.

[Packofcrows]

Originally Posted by winsometang

I was pulled over a couple weeks ago for having no front license plate in Santa Cruz, CA.
Next thing you know,the cop asks me to pop my hood and found my uncatted headers and my intake. He writes me a citation for Modified Emissions, but instead of writing Scion/Toyota(i drive an frs) in the make, he writes Subaru(they are twins after all. He also failed to write down my license plate completely(missing 3 characters). If i fight him in court, what are the odds i will win? im not trying to pay for a 400 dollar ticket.

SC is notorious for polluter tix lol