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Old 05-30-2014, 11:06 AM   #29
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I noticed the thicker oil will also increase temps, so I am trying to find a happy median. Probably going to go with Motul 300V next.
Yes, I heard that too but how much of an increase we are talking about, is it something barely noticeable or with a big margin?
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Not to start a new thread, wanna update this.
After 250 miles of track days (in a month) and 1500 miles of daily drive, found out that car consumed like 3/4 qt of my Motul 0w30 (econrgy). Is it normal for agressive track ride in warm temperature (+10-15 C)?
P.S. Car odo 4600 miles, used on track at her maximum.
As a comparison: mine consumed 1 quart after 4 track days (~500 track miles) and 2500 street miles. Temps on the track days were around 65F. Mine has about 4000 miles on it.
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Just checked my catch can right now. There is at least a good 2-3oz of oil in there from normal driving, no track day since I last emptied it. Only did a few full throttle pulls while taking data logs. Although this time there was the distinct scent of fuel. None visible in the oil, but I certainly smell it. I guess there is some blow by after all.

I'm curious as to how many of you guys are running catch cans and how much oil is being caught compared to the amount of oil found missing at oil change.

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Old 06-03-2014, 02:28 PM   #32
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5w40 for a new engine? Isnt it too viscous? Iam using motul 0w30, no oil leaks on engine, no actually heats here. Checking 20-30 mins after engine stops.

Only 2 of us having this issue?
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not for Florida since it never really gets that cold in Florida
the difference between the 0w-30 and 0w-40 is the hot thickness or viscosity, it's more resistant to excessive heat which is the main reason I have been using on everything I owned/tracked for years.. I know a guy who used the same Shell Rotella T6 on everything he owned and tracked without a single problem ...cars, trucks, bikes even lawn movers
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Not to start a new thread, wanna update this.
After 250 miles of track days (in a month) and 1500 miles of daily drive, found out that car consumed like 3/4 qt of my Motul 0w30 (econrgy). Is it normal for agressive track ride in warm temperature (+10-15 C)?
P.S. Car odo 4600 miles, used on track at her maximum.
skyfire - You might want to use Motul X-lite 0W-30 instead of the Eco-nergy 0W-30 for the track.

Eco-nergy 0W-30 is geared more towards fuel economy and is a very thin 30 grade oil at 100C at 9.95 cSt's (30 grade starts at 9.3 cst's). It also has a low High Temp High Shear of 3.0.
http://www.motul.com/system/product_...pdf?1334962658

OTOH, X-lite is a thick 30 grade oil being 11.9 cSt's at 100C (40 grade starts at 12.5) and has an HTHS of 3.6 to meet ACEA A3/B4 specs.
http://www.motul.com/system/product_...pdf?1334963012

Otherwise, Motul 300V 0W-20 is a very good track oil.

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Since a lot of talk about oil temps at the track here, I just finished a track day this past weekend. Did a complete 30min session at full throttle. Oil temp averaged 288f and peak was 296f. This is way to high for comfort. I am using Sustina 0-20.
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Yes, I heard that too but how much of an increase we are talking about, is it something barely noticeable or with a big margin?
it was about 8-10*f, nothing crazy.
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Since a lot of talk about oil temps at the track here, I just finished a track day this past weekend. Did a complete 30min session at full throttle. Oil temp averaged 288f and peak was 296f. This is way to high for comfort. I am using Sustina 0-20.
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Please friends,

is it normal oil consumption after 3000km about 0,6liters. And after refill about 700km 0,5liters. I need to mention that my car was not use in track, only normal trafic?
I also can see smoke from the back when I press gas pedal.
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:28 PM   #38
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My car uses exactly 1 qt every 12,400 miles.

I have been carefully tracking my oil consumption on my 2017 86 Automatic by observing how many quarts of Mobil-1 I have gone through topping up over the last 2.5 years and 27K mi. My car uses exactly 1 qt every 12,400 miles.

As an aside: coolant consumption is 3.7oz every 7,500mi service interval.

I was super careful during the break-in period to watch RPM's and vary constantly, and a few strong pulls (torque'y, but not high RPM) to "seat the rings" if that really does happen. The car gets serviced per book at the dealer as it's new.

I drive it only for fun on a 90 mile route mostly on hiway-1 (Calif coast) to my fav hill climb from San Gregorio to Woodside CA. I do the 10 miles in the hills at 4,500-7K RPM quite hard, very fun. The oil temp gets to about 234 deg at it's peak when I reach the peak of the mountain. The water hits 212 at most (ambient air temperature of about 85).

Scenic driving flat along the coast the oil is 196 deg and water is 190.

I also blend my stupid 91 Calif gas in Woodside with 100 oct race gas (the 76 sells it there!) to get 93 oct and watch the ignition timing to confirm it advances properly to get the most power. I use BlueDriver to monitor.

Another aside... Starting in 2017 forward, Subaru stupidly programmed the car to let the battery discharge during acceleration and stops, doing most of the charging while decelerating only. I discovered this when I parked to listen to the radio for an hour and the car would barely crank. They said it's for "economy" B.S.! This will ruin batteries faster. You can force the car to "normal charge" at 14.2V by turning on the running lights (I drive with them all the time now). Also, if you turn the fan on it will hold at 13.3V. But drive normally and watch the voltage drop from an initial 14.4 at start to around 12.1 in just a few minutes. More on this later as I'm working up a big expose.

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Old 10-02-2019, 12:07 PM   #39
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and watch the ignition timing to confirm it advances properly to get the most power. I use BlueDriver to monitor.
Out of curiosity, what value do you read to monitor the timing advance? Can you read the IAM value with bluedriver?
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My 2013 has 98k miles and >20 trackdays. My oil consumption is similar: <1qt /10k miles. Very low.
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my car uses an ounce every 100 miles on Subaru 0W-20. most drives are 20 mile warm up, spanked for 20 minutes then a 20 mile cool down.
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my car uses an ounce every 100 miles on Subaru 0W-20. most drives are 20 mile warm up, spanked for 20 minutes then a 20 mile cool down.
Interesting. You're filling a quart at around every 3200 miles then? How old is the car/what is the mileage?
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