follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-03-2012, 07:36 AM   #1
denverizzles
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 206
Thanks: 32
Thanked 77 Times in 37 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
is this worth doing

so as we all sit here and wait for the aftermarket to develop for the FR-S; i find myself struggling between NA mods for the interim, until the FI market matures. Is it worth getting up-pipe, down-pipe, headers, full-exhuast, intake, pulley, tune, etc...if at the end of it you're going to go FI anyways.

I'd just hate to spend a couple grand on all those parts and then in a couple years know I won't be able to use them on my FI system.

denverizzles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2012, 08:03 AM   #2
Supermassive
Senior Member
 
Supermassive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout
Location: Phoenix AZ
Posts: 1,406
Thanks: 116
Thanked 830 Times in 360 Posts
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
If the current state of aftermarket exhausts for the FR-S/BRZ is any indication, I doubt you can go wrong with at least a catback. All of them show gains, some more than others, and all of them accentuate the sound of your car in some way. If you are going to wait for an FI solution to "mature" you're probably looking at at least a couple years before buying one. In the interim why not splurge on a decent catback since if you arent going for an N/A max hp solution it cant hurt.

What seems to be emerging from the progress made by tuners is that tuning the car with systems like EcuTek is where the real gains for N/A setups will be made. Of course tuning with full systems will yield better results, but if your plan in the grand scheme of things is to go FI you are better off waiting for headers and downpipe/crosspipe because you might decide on a kit that wont support what's available now. With a catback you are pretty safe since almost every manufacturer building FI kits will take into consideration the huge inventory of catbacks that will be on the market by the time FI kits are proven.

Just my 2 cents.
Supermassive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2012, 08:07 AM   #3
Grimlock
Senior Member
 
Grimlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: BRZ and NA
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 878
Thanks: 46
Thanked 270 Times in 167 Posts
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
If I had plans to go FI, I sure wouldn't spend all that money just to 'tide me over' for a few months to a couple years. It's a big waste of time and money.
Grimlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2012, 10:08 AM   #4
Propaganda
Diamonds & Cadillacs
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: '13 fr-s, 1974 911s
Location: Internet
Posts: 392
Thanks: 162
Thanked 157 Times in 102 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
not sure how it is with turboing boxer motors, but if you plan to go FI, i would not recommend getting a header, then. On most inline 4's I've seen, the exhaust manifolds for turbos ones look entirely different and aren't compatible with a turbo set up. Again, not familiar with turboing boxer motors, but this is what I've seen on inline 4's
Propaganda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2012, 10:27 AM   #5
Mild2Wild
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: Firestorm FR-S
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 169
Thanks: 28
Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Also apart from just the tubing design is the diameter. Seems like most NA applications are going 2.5". A lot of turbo setups will head straight for 3".
Mild2Wild is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2012, 10:58 AM   #6
epson1
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: Sioux Falls SD
Posts: 98
Thanks: 1
Thanked 69 Times in 34 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Propaganda View Post
not sure how it is with turboing boxer motors, but if you plan to go FI, i would not recommend getting a header, then. On most inline 4's I've seen, the exhaust manifolds for turbos ones look entirely different and aren't compatible with a turbo set up. Again, not familiar with turboing boxer motors, but this is what I've seen on inline 4's
I can't tell if you're serious or not...
epson1 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to epson1 For This Useful Post:
whitejdm (08-03-2012)
Old 08-03-2012, 11:11 AM   #7
Propaganda
Diamonds & Cadillacs
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: '13 fr-s, 1974 911s
Location: Internet
Posts: 392
Thanks: 162
Thanked 157 Times in 102 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by epson1 View Post
I can't tell if you're serious or not...
Well yeah... The turbo manifolds are different from a regular NA header. Completely different design. As I mentioned, I have no clue about making an NA boxer turbo'd or what the designs look like for the factory turbo'd ones. But from the I4's i've seen, if you buy an NA header and want to turbo, you just wasted money

Edit:






what's the difference?

with the NA header, the turbo isn't taken into consideration for the design/placement. But like I said, I'm only familiar with I4's

Last edited by Propaganda; 08-03-2012 at 11:44 AM.
Propaganda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2012, 11:35 AM   #8
whitejdm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: BRZ prem.
Location: Edmonton AB
Posts: 250
Thanks: 20
Thanked 35 Times in 29 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by epson1 View Post
I can't tell if you're serious or not...

Bahahahahaha.............
whitejdm is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Opticoat -- Worth it? Furtive Cosmetic Maintenance (Wash, Wax, Detailing, Body Repairs) 42 01-01-2015 01:00 AM
BRZ vs FRS - was it worth it? Heero CANADA 34 06-25-2012 10:57 AM
How much is RWD worth it? mankarn86 Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 54 04-24-2012 05:15 PM
What's this worth? Sport-Tech Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 5 04-12-2012 10:21 AM
worth a shot pkptd447 Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] 1 12-23-2011 05:01 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.