2013 BRZ replacement starter, correct part help

[sftateofmind]

Hello. I've been unable to drive my baby due to my issue detailed here. I believe that I may need a new starter. Wanted to know if anyone had the correct part/location for me to order.

Still open to figuring out what the hell is going on with my car. Coils were another option for what may be causing it not to start.

[billwot]

It would be really unusual for the starter to fail on any modern car in only 2-3 years. The last starter I replaced was in 1992 on my 1988 Taurus.

If your car cranks (meaning the starter spins the engine over), then the problem is not the starter

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by sftateofmind

Hello. I've been unable to drive my baby due to my issue detailed here. I believe that I may need a new starter. Wanted to know if anyone had the correct part/location for me to order.

Still open to figuring out what the hell is going on with my car. Coils were another option for what may be causing it not to start.

What makes you think its the starter? Take it to a dealer for diagnosis

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by sftateofmind

Hello. I've been unable to drive my baby due to my issue detailed here. I believe that I may need a new starter. Wanted to know if anyone had the correct part/location for me to order.

Still open to figuring out what the hell is going on with my car. Coils were another option for what may be causing it not to start.

After reading your other thread, I get the feeling that you would be better off doing what @FRSBRZGT86FAN suggested and take it into a shop/dealer.


humfrz

[steve99]

From your other thread


In short,

On the highway in 4th, heard an odd noise, slow down as I'm making my exit, get down the gears proper to neutral before the light, no power.

All my lights cut on as if I just turned on the car for the electronics only. Same thing continues to happen when I try to start it now. It'll click, the electronics come on, but the engine won't start. No issues this morning driving to work, really not sure what's wrong.




That's very unlikely to be caused by the starter motor.


It likely to be and electrical issue that's caused the engine to shut down.


Best to take it to a shop unless your skilled at diagnostics and have obd scantool and multimeters wiring diagrams.


you would be better off scanning for fault codes via obd port. Might give a clue. and checking fuses and fusible links.


Heard of a couple of cars that had wiring short under bonnet, somewhere round the direct injection wiring loom from memory and it takes out main ecu fuse.



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[turtlefeeder]

take to shop and borrow a obd2 reader maybe something will show up. have them take a look they'll possibly even quick check for free (try several place, they might give you some inaccurate info)

if some does come up for example starter or alternator or etc call in toyota/scion and have them transfer you to parts department than ask them.

good luck friend

[Tcoat]

OH for crying out loud get the battery checked properly. Between these two threads the battery was mentioned so many times that I can not figure out why it has been cast aside for other scenarios. Every single symptom points to a bad battery. Trying to boost it once does not constitute a check.
The starter would not come into play with about 90% of the issues described. A $5 meter from any discount shop will tell you the volts and amps and then you can go from there.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

OH for crying out loud get the battery checked properly. Between these two threads the battery was mentioned so many times that I can not figure out why it has been cast aside for other scenarios. Every single symptom points to a bad battery. Trying to boost it once does not constitute a check.
The starter would not come into play with about 90% of the issues described. A $5 meter from any discount shop will tell you the volts and amps and then you can go from there.

Hence the comment to just go to the dealer, with all his/her fiddling around he's sure to blow something out. I wouldn't trust him to work on it anymore

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Hence the comment to just go to the dealer, with all his/her fiddling around he's sure to blow something out. I wouldn't trust him to work on it anymore

As I find so often here people want to skip the basics and jump to the most extreme of any possible issues/solutions.
Check for codes? Replace starters? And my favourite in this case was the coil. Electrical issues you need to start with battery, move to fuses, onto relays, then to mechanicals and motors. Not to mention that the BRZs have an often discussed issue with batteries dying even if we haven't figured out just why yet.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

As I find so often here people want to skip the basics and jump to the most extreme of any possible issues/solutions.
Check for codes? Replace starters? And my favourite in this case was the coil. Electrical issues you need to start with battery, move to fuses, onto relays, then to mechanicals and motors. Not to mention that the BRZs have an often discussed issue with batteries dying even if we haven't figured out just why yet.

I've noticed that as well and it doesn't seem like some statistical error. It seems that most of the BR-Zs seem to have more starter/battery issues than the FR-S in the issues section. I've got a feeling it's got to do more with the fact it uses more power in a parked state than the FR-S. It has a different alarm system than the FR-S (in fact it actually has an alarm) as well as the keyless entry fob detection active all the time. I surmise this may cause a bit more extra wear on the battery than the FR-S. Most likely Monograms, 10 Series, and RS 1.0s with the same alarm and key-less entry system should suffer the same issues that would totally narrow it down.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

I've noticed that as well and it doesn't seem like some statistical error. It seems that most of the BR-Zs seem to have more starter/battery issues than the FR-S in the issues section. I've got a feeling it's got to do more with the fact it uses more power in a parked state than the FR-S. It has a different alarm system than the FR-S (in fact it actually has an alarm) as well as the keyless entry fob detection active all the time. I surmise this may cause a bit more extra wear on the battery than the FR-S. Most likely Monograms, 10 Series, and RS 1.0s with the same alarm and key-less entry system should suffer the same issues that would totally narrow it down.

I have been watching this for a year (there is a tread someplace) and the reported issues are 10 to 1 BRZs. Since the FRS outnumbers them by about the same we are looking at a huge variance. I also suspect it is all the goodies on the BRZ creating a parasitic draw that the majority of FRSs are not subject to. Since the battery was probably speced to the FRS system (majority rules) it may not be up to the BRZ demands.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I have been watching this for a year (there is a tread someplace) and the reported issues are 10 to 1 BRZs. Since the FRS outnumbers them by about the same we are looking at a huge variance. I also suspect it is all the goodies on the BRZ creating a parasitic draw that the majority of FRSs are not subject to. Since the battery was probably speced to the FRS system (majority rules) it may not be up to the BRZ demands.

Also the stock Panasonic battery isn't too good, I remember when the car first came out a few people were having issues with the battery only lasting 2-3 years

[roddy]

For such a big heavy battery, it is pretty light duty. IIRC, the CCA rating is only 390. My lawn tractor has more than that.

[BRZnut]

Not to hijack the thread but since we are on a battery discussion I'm looking to replace my original 2013 Panasonic before the next winter. Any good suggestions? I use to go to Red Tops but that was years ago.