BRZ comes last in EVO group test - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

faz1 · 04-20-2012, 02:54 PM

The June edition of Evo landed on my doorstep today.

Only had a quick chance to glance through it. 26 pages dedicated to the BRZ!

Unfortunately it came last in the group test against a Megane 265, 370Z and MX-5.

Draco-REX · 04-20-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by faz1

The June edition of Evo landed on my doorstep today.

Only had a quick chance to glance through it. 26 pages dedicated to the BRZ!

Unfortunately it came last in the group test against a Megane 265, 370Z and MX-5.

Really?? I wonder what the criteria were. It'll be a good read either way though. Evo's a great mag.

Guff · 04-20-2012, 03:01 PM

Pics!

zoomzoomers · 04-20-2012, 03:02 PM

Yes. Please post scans of the article.

OrbitalEllipses · 04-20-2012, 03:03 PM

TTIWWOP.

blu_ · 04-20-2012, 03:04 PM

Ruh roh...

Guff · 04-20-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

TTIWWOP.

faz1 · 04-20-2012, 03:08 PM

Sorry guys, scanners packed up!

The general opinion behind all four articles is that the BRZ was great when driving at 10 10ths but average everywhere else.

Ryephile · 04-20-2012, 03:19 PM

I hate how my EVO subscription is almost a month behind; I just got my May edition a few days ago.

Anyway, I'm not too surprised to hear they didn't like it <10/10ths. The past couple articles from other publications [at least the Miata vs. BRZ in Pop Mech] that have been released where they drive the car on the road have alluded to the car being "almost boring" when just cruising around. It makes me think that the steering and chassis don't wake up and communicate until it's literally at the limit of adhesion, which makes me think the much derided Prius tires are really the key to the cars fun.

IntenseDVDA · 04-20-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by faz1

Sorry guys, scanners packed up!

The general opinion behind all four articles is that the BRZ was great when driving at 10 10ths but average everywhere else.

I thought that was the point of the car. To have something you can actually drive at 10/10ths rather than to never be able to access that in others. Whatevs, doesn't change my opinion whatsoever.

Kimsey47 · 04-20-2012, 03:25 PM

Never heard of a car that succeeded in what it was built to do lose in a review that said it met the goals it was supposed to... Oh well, I agree with IntenseDVDA: BRZ for the WIN! Doesn't change my opinion at all to hear this news!

Draco-REX · 04-20-2012, 03:37 PM

I think the 10/10ths thing indicates that it has very high limits for what it is. So if you're not pushing the limits, it's too capable.

Which, if true, is absolutely hilarious. Essentially, in trying to make a fun low-limit car, Toybaru has made the car TOO GOOD. They have effectively failed by succeeding.

But I think it might be more complex than that. I can't wait to read the article.

carbonBLUE · 04-20-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile

I hate how my EVO subscription is almost a month behind; I just got my May edition a few days ago.

Anyway, I'm not too surprised to hear they didn't like it <10/10ths. The past couple articles from other publications that have been released where they drive the car on the road have alluded to the car being "almost boring" when just cruising around. It makes me think that the steering and chassis don't wake up and communicate until it's literally at the limit of adhesion, which makes me think the much derided Prius tires are really the key to the cars fun.

see i did an interesting test, i went from my ultra high performance summer sticky tires to low rolling resistance tires, and my car became funner, but at the same time i didnt feel as safe in the rain, but did learn a lot about my cars behavior at the limit, now i live at that limit, the chassis on my car is pretty damn good for a street car, and this car is supposed to be better, and about the same speed

i could personally care less how fast it is, if its too slow ill add power, if it doesnt turn as hard as i want to ill throw sticky rubber on it...

86design · 04-20-2012, 04:16 PM

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