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Old 10-28-2013, 10:53 PM   #1
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Stevens Creek Scion salesman can't drive stick

Posted this in another thread but figured I'd give it more visibility as fair warning to anyone in the market for a black FR-S.

Sometime last week, I went to Stevens Creek Scion to test-drive an FR-S. When I was finished, the salesman (Fred??) got in the driver's seat to reverse into the parking space.

First, he didn't know how to get to R; I had to show him how to pull up the little ring before he broke the shifter off from brute force.

Second, he roasted the clutch trying to back it in and stalled twice in the process. I could smell it from 20 feet away, and it made me cringe inside. I should have just volunteered to park it for him...

Afterward, he just tried to play it off as if nothing happened. Needless to say, I was out of there in a heartbeat.

So, for anyone considering the 2014 Raven Black FR-S MT at Stevens Creek Scion... keep that in mind.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:13 AM   #2
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lol ouch
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:02 AM   #3
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There is no shame in saying that one doesn't know how to drive stick. Better to be honest than to lie. You can't expect any salesman to know anything about a car versus a car enthusiast. When I bought my BRZ from BMW of Pleasanton, my sales lady was surprised of how much I knew about the car and she did not dare to attempt to drive my car.
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There is no shame in saying that one doesn't know how to drive stick. Better to be honest than to lie. You can't expect any salesman to know anything about a car versus a car enthusiast. When I bought my BRZ from BMW of Pleasanton, my sales lady was surprised of how much I knew about the car and she did not dare to attempt to drive my car.
Same here lol it kinda makes me sick that they fully know what they are trying to push lol when the buyer knows more its just sad
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Not the same dealer, but Stevens Creek Subaru is one of the worst auto dealers I have ever been to. This is a dealer who lost a frickin 12mm bolt 3 times in a row after I special ordered it through their parts dept.

I'm amazed those retards are still in business.
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Posted this in another thread but figured I'd give it more visibility as fair warning to anyone in the market for a black FR-S.

Sometime last week, I went to Stevens Creek Scion to test-drive an FR-S. When I was finished, the salesman (Fred??) got in the driver's seat to reverse into the parking space.

First, he didn't know how to get to R; I had to show him how to pull up the little ring before he broke the shifter off from brute force.

Second, he roasted the clutch trying to back it in and stalled twice in the process. I could smell it from 20 feet away, and it made me cringe inside. I should have just volunteered to park it for him...

Afterward, he just tried to play it off as if nothing happened. Needless to say, I was out of there in a heartbeat.

So, for anyone considering the 2014 Raven Black FR-S MT at Stevens Creek Scion... keep that in mind.
Man, screw that place. The one sales manager tried to tell me that the TC was just as good of a car when I was trying to pre-order, would never call me back, or give me updates, and when he finally did call me it was to tell me they were charging me 2.5k over what I was quoted due to stereo equipment that I had to watch them install at some launch event/bbq. I immediately pulled my deposit and moved it to another dealership.

Deposited less, was in/out with my keys in an HOUR at One Toyota in Oakland. It was seamless and easy. They didn't drill the front plates, they didn't try to BS me, and if I need to get a family car, I'll likely consider them now. THAT is how you do business and earn customers.
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Posted this in another thread but figured I'd give it more visibility as fair warning to anyone in the market for a black FR-S.

Sometime last week, I went to Stevens Creek Scion to test-drive an FR-S. When I was finished, the salesman (Fred??) got in the driver's seat to reverse into the parking space.

First, he didn't know how to get to R; I had to show him how to pull up the little ring before he broke the shifter off from brute force.

Second, he roasted the clutch trying to back it in and stalled twice in the process. I could smell it from 20 feet away, and it made me cringe inside. I should have just volunteered to park it for him...

Afterward, he just tried to play it off as if nothing happened. Needless to say, I was out of there in a heartbeat.

So, for anyone considering the 2014 Raven Black FR-S MT at Stevens Creek Scion... keep that in mind.
I saw Steven's Creek and went Uh oh.... the entire automall there sucks. I never shop there for cars.
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avoid Steven's Creek Subaru in general.
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Funny enough, the only dealer willing to sell me the car I wanted (no options), when I got in the car only 6 miles on it, even if some shit happened in those 1-3 miles in the grand scheme of things I will likely do much nastier things to it. While I have zero love for any local dealerships, a couple bad eggs shouldn't mean tossing out the whole basket, especially if they've got the price you want.

Edit: For those that care, they didn't drill the front plate and asked me before washing the car.
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Funny enough, the only dealer willing to sell me the car I wanted (no options), when I got in the car only 6 miles on it, even if some shit happened in those 1-3 miles in the grand scheme of things I will likely do much nastier things to it. While I have zero love for any local dealerships, a couple bad eggs shouldn't mean tossing out the whole basket, especially if they've got the price you want.

Edit: For those that care, they didn't drill the front plate and asked me before washing the car.
I don't doubt that it is possible to have a good experience at this (or any) dealership with the right salespeople/circumstances but perhaps, in your case, you found a good egg in a basket of bad eggs :p

Also, I know a bit of clutch burning isn't gonna mess up the car, but you know this forum is full of fanatics (myself included) that would like to know *everything* possible about their car before they lay their own hands on it so this PSA is for them
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I don't doubt that it is possible to have a good experience at this (or any) dealership with the right salespeople/circumstances
Hah, you misunderstood, I only posted to mention that I bought my car from there and that I doubt it was mishandled in a way that would impact my vehicle. I would not write a positive review of my purchasing experience.

Best of luck finding a good dealership, it's a bitch and a half around here.

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