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Old 04-28-2017, 03:07 AM   #981
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You could've lost oil due to the rod going on u. Happened to my old spec v. Check your oil levels weekly from now on. It takes 10 seconds to do. As for the tune. I'm running the same tune as you but with an ofh specific tune. I doubt it's the tune because many would have had the same story. Keep us updated

Is it covered under warranty? If they say no, bitch and argue about it.


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my car is still covered under warranty so far, i just took the car in to toyota earlier this evening. I hope why wont find out i had OFT tunes. If they did found out, I'm sure they're going to b*tch about the fact that i had the tune and the tune caused the damages.

Anyways, thanks for the advice! greatly appreciated!
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my car is still covered under warranty so far, i just took the car in to toyota earlier this evening. I hope why wont find out i had OFT tunes. If they did found out, I'm sure they're going to b*tch about the fact that i had the tune and the tune caused the damages.



Anyways, thanks for the advice! greatly appreciated!


Was it used or new? You should've flashed it back to stock right away it only would've taken 10 minutes and peace of mind knowing the can't bitch


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Old 04-28-2017, 04:26 AM   #983
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my car is still covered under warranty so far, i just took the car in to toyota earlier this evening. I hope why wont find out i had OFT tunes. If they did found out, I'm sure they're going to b*tch about the fact that i had the tune and the tune caused the damages.

Anyways, thanks for the advice! greatly appreciated!


They might also say that you didn't check your oil levels frequently. Next time read the car's manual in detail.


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Old 04-28-2017, 04:49 AM   #984
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This is not a warranty situation. A warranty is for manufacturing problems, not abuse of the car. You could have read the manual, paid attention to the forums, joined FB car groups or just paid attention to your car. You should have been more proactive in caring for your car. When you tune your car, you have to be a lot more careful and take care of stuff your self. The upkeep of a tuned car is a lot more of a PITA than a stock car.

If you go 1500 mi over your OCI with a tuned car- too bad. Why would Toyota cover that under warranty? Because you can't afford a new engine? Too bad snowflake, here's a lesson in life and it's going to be very expen$ive.
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Shouldn't he have gotten a Warning Light?


If not, that's a Manufacturer issue.
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Old 04-28-2017, 05:33 AM   #986
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Some people really like making others feel like shit hence why the world we live in sucks. @kzale1249 go to the dealership and play dumb and blame it on them. Your car has a warrenty for a reason. If it's used, don't admit to it being tuned. They might think it's the previous owner. Depending on whether you live in Canada or the US. There is a lemon law and Canada has CAMVAP. Don't pay a dime until you've exhausted every possibility. The oil warning light should've came on, if the car loses that much oil in that many kms, your car is either burning oil or leaking which are both "manufacturers defects" if you live in Ontario I can come with u to the dealership. I've dealt with bs like this before and I have friends who dealt with CAMVAP before. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know.
Crap I didn't see where u were living. Well if you need anything man let me know. Sorry to hear about ur car!


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To be down that much oil, I'd be looking for a leak somewhere.

That's a LOT of oil and it's not being burned!
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Shouldn't he have gotten a Warning Light?


If not, that's a Manufacturer issue.
Oil lights rarely give adequate warning in my experience, I also ran a car low on oil, I forgot to replace fill cap, luckily it was still sitting on the exhaust heat shield a week later after it sprayed 2+ quarts out the top. When the light came on it must have had <2 quarts left.

Some engines are designed with more durability for dumb owners, the FA20 isn't one of them.

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Some people really like making others feel like shit hence why the world we live in sucks. @kzale1249 go to the dealership and play dumb and blame it on them. Your car has a warrenty for a reason. If it's used, don't admit to it being tuned.
Ok, lets trash the people for being blunt and honest and suggest committing fraud.

People like you are why warranty claims get denied at the slightest hint they can get away with blaming the owner.

Edit: In all honesty I'd be surprised it magically burned that much oil, either a lazy dealership trying to pin it on a customer or it wasn't properly filled up last time. Regardless if you don't know the status of your oil it's their word against your nothing, SOL as far as I'm concerned.
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Oil warning on a lot of JDM cars is a low pressure warning, usually triggered by virtually 0 pressure. By that time, it's too late. But bearing issues will likely make the light come on.
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Oil lights rarely give adequate warning in my experience, I also ran a car low on oil, I forgot to replace fill cap, luckily it was still sitting on the exhaust heat shield a week later after it sprayed 2+ quarts out the top. When the light came on it must have had <2 quarts left.

Some engines are designed with more durability for dumb owners, the FA20 isn't one of them.



Ok, lets trash the people for being blunt and honest and suggest committing fraud.

People like you are why warranty claims get denied at the slightest hint they can get away with blaming the owner.

Edit: In all honesty I'd be surprised it magically burned that much oil, either a lazy dealership trying to pin it on a customer or it wasn't properly filled up last time. Regardless if you don't know the status of your oil it's their word against your nothing, SOL as far as I'm concerned.

Yea lets all shit on this mans day by stating the obvious on what he "should've" done....

Commit fraud? His car lost that much oil in such a small interval! Thats not fraud, that's a fuck up on whoever put oil in his car or it could even be a leak OR it could be burning oil. When I was shopping for my frs, I found one that had 40,000kms and only 1 oil chance on record. I immediately walked away from it but that ran like nothing ever happened ( and since you like stating the obvious, yes he could've done the oil change himself but I like everything to be documented).

Going back to the OP, check to see if Toyota did the last oil change. If so, you've got more ammo to fire at them with. Don't give up easily. Keep us updated, I'm dying to know how this will all play out.


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Commit fraud? His car lost that much oil in such a small interval! Thats not fraud, that's a fuck up on whoever put oil in his car or it could even be a leak OR it could be burning oil.
Fuck no. That's the responsibility of the car owner (checking the oil level after a fill), you pull that dipstick before you roll out of the service center.

At the end of the day you only have control over one person, trust but verify.

However I do agree with you that he should see if Toyota will bear the responsibility, being 1.5k miles late on a 7.5k interval oil change with modern synthetic oil shouldn't destroy an engine and if it legitimately burned off 3+ quarts there is something wrong. I'd bet something unusual happened here, if I was a betting man I'd think your hunch is right and the knucklehead that did the last fill might have underfilled or it was leaking out the drain plug (i.e. double/no/reused crush washer) or something else.

Low oil absolutely would destroy an engine regardless if the car had 400,000 miles or 4 miles.
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Fuck no. That's the responsibility of the car owner (checking the oil level after a fill), you pull that dipstick before you roll out of the service center.

At the end of the day you only have control over one person, trust but verify.

However I do agree with you that he should see if Toyota will bear the responsibility, being 1.5k miles late on a 7.5k interval oil change with modern synthetic oil shouldn't destroy an engine and if it legitimately burned off 3+ quarts there is something wrong. I'd bet something unusual happened here, if I was a betting man I'd think your hunch is right and the knucklehead that did the last fill might have underfilled or it was leaking out the drain plug (i.e. double/no/reused crush washer) or something else.

Low oil absolutely would destroy an engine regardless if the car had 400,000 miles or 4 miles.


Sorry if I seemed like a d*ck man. I would HATE to be in his position. I had the engine low on oil on my old Sentra spec v and threw a rod but lucky for me, I can take that block out and put one myself in less than a day and I got one for 500 USD.. also, I've never had someone work on my cars without screwing something up. Even my last oil change with Toyota. There was so much oil spilled in the engine bay, I could've fried some chicken on it lol.

Like @strat61caster said "trust but verify"

I really hope he figures out a way to put his twin back on the road. If I can help out in anyway, let me know!


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I've never had someone work on my cars without screwing something up. Even my last oil change with Toyota. There was so much oil spilled in the engine bay, I could've fried some chicken on it lol.
That's why I do my own work as well. I had to use an impact driver to get the drain plug off my mothers old car I've inherited, oil errywhere.

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That's why I do my own work as well. I had to use an impact driver to get the drain plug off my mothers old car I've inherited, oil errywhere.





Jeez it must've been on pretty tight. I do my friend's cars and usually with a breaker bar, it comes right off. I'm just using up the free oil changes I got included with my deal (you can always squeeze something out of them) and finishing off my warranty with Toyota doing all my oil changes that way if anything screws up, it's on them.


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