Rotating tires if one is newer than the rest, how?

[PandaSPUR]

So normally the two rear tires come straight forward, same side. And the two front tires go back, opposite sides.

For me, I had to replace the front passenger side tire (hit a hard bump and popped the sidewall). This was at like.. 3000 miles? Currently at 4400 miles and probably doing rotation soon. How should I rotate?

[ryoma]

if your tires aren't directional, they are supposed to go in an X pattern I believe. driver's front goes to the passenger rear, etc. if they are directional, just swap from front to back on the same side.

[humfrz]

Here ya go ........ pick one .........

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...160127074826:s

Personally, I'm stuck in the 80s with rotating non-directional radial tires ..... I rotate them front to rear and rear to front, keeping them on the same side.

Why? Heck, I donno ...... someone convinced me way back when, that radial tires should always spin in the same direction .....


humfrz

[roddy]

Personally, I would start with the newer tire on the right rear, then rotate as normal at your next oil change.

[RichardsFRS]

If you have directional tires (look for arrows) you have no choice, else your treads will be backwards.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

If you have directional tires (look for arrows) you have no choice, else your treads will be backwards.

Beat me too it!
This is actually very important because if you have one or more (if one is then at least one other has to be) on backwards things can go wrong in a hurry if/when you lose traction.

[PandaSPUR]

Ah ok. So since I have the stock primacy tires, which are directional, I have no choice in how I want to rotate them anyway?

But im confused, that means I'd end up with backwards treads if I followed the manual.

And again, my main issue is that one of my tires is brand new compared to the other three

[jvincent]

The idea behind rotation is to even out the wear.

For example, if the fronts wear faster than the rears then when you rotate front to back that will even out.

In your case since you have a new tire on the front it will naturally have less wear than the rear. If you know that your fronts wear faster than the rears then don't rotate that side this time. It will eventually even out.

[justatroll]

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

And again, my main issue is that one of my tires is brand new compared to the other three

So don't be too surprised if the TC/VSC system complains.
I don't know how sensitive it is, but the rear wheels will rotate at slightly different speeds.

[RichardsFRS]

Front to back and keep on. Directionals can't be rotated diagonal because you'd be reversing tread. Treads are designed to funnel water. With 3k miles I wouldn't worry about it. I don't know about stock tires. I have different ones. Most have catoony arrows in them that show direction

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

............................... With 3k miles I wouldn't worry about it. .................

I agree, with normal tread wear, after only 3000 miles, there shouldn't be a significant difference in tread depth (wear) between the new tire and the older ones.


humfrz

[mdm]

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

But im confused, that means I'd end up with backwards treads if I followed the manual.

Which manual? 2016 FRS manual says

[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by mdm

Which manual? 2016 FRS manual says

2015 BRZ manual. Well, nothing indicates its from 2015, but its the PDF I downloaded right after buying my 2015 BRZ.



And so I guess I'll just leave it alone for now. And rotate normally at like 6 or 7k

[roddy]

I stand by my original statement...the stock primacy tires are NOT directional. They do have an inside and outside for tire mounting purposes, but once mounted on the rim, it doesn't matter which corner of the car the wheel is placed on.


For rear wheel drive vehicles (non-directional and not staggered), I cross the front two to the opposite rear, then the rears straight up on the same side. I rotate mine at every oil change. When I have the front jacked up for the oil change, I swap the 2 front tires side-for-side while the oil is draining, then when I am done the oil change, it is a simple front to rear exchange to finish the tire rotation...works for me.


Again, I would put the newer tire on the right rear to start, then rotate as normal at your next oil change. It sounds like there is a 1400 mile difference between the original tires and the new one...that's not likely enough to make any difference. I wouldn't sweat it.