SARD turbo Kit in September + More! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

toxicdrift · 03-29-2012, 03:28 PM

yep just trolling along the japanese tuner websites, found this too today

http://www.sard.co.jp/after/products.../TOYOTA86.html

Cessblood · 03-29-2012, 03:40 PM

Watching.

Guff · 03-29-2012, 04:02 PM

Wow! SARD is coming out with a lot of stuff!

mrtodd · 03-30-2012, 02:11 PM

Nice find! I'm interested to see the exact specs of their turbo. I guess we'll just have to wait until September and see what shows up.

ichitaka05 · 03-30-2012, 02:20 PM

nice to see a lot of companies making aftermarket turbos... but my major worry is gonna be FA20 gonna be another EJ251.

RRnold · 03-30-2012, 02:28 PM

Nice find!! :happy0180:

This is more justification to wait on the FR-S!

mrtodd · 03-30-2012, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

nice to see a lot of companies making aftermarket turbos... but my major worry is gonna be FA20 gonna be another EJ251.

Can you elaborate? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm really only well educated in my Honda engines...

toxicdrift · 03-30-2012, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtodd

Can you elaborate? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm really only well educated in my Honda engines...

+1 .. was the 251 like a failure from the scooby lineup? this is what i could find

EJ251 Flat four EJ251

The EJ251 has demonstrated externally leaking head gasket issues on occasion as the engine accumulates mileage over 100,000 miles (160,000 km). SOHC Intake volume is calculated by the use of a MAP sensor, unlike the EJ253 which uses a MAF sensor. Compression ratio is 10.0:1.
Power ISO: 123 kW (165 hp) @ 5600 RPM
226 N·m (167 ft·lbf) @ 4000 rpm
Usage:

Impreza 2.5RS, 2.5TS 00-04 (US)
Impreza Outback Sport 02-04 (US)
Forester 00-04 (US)
Legacy 00-04 (US)
Outback 00-04 (US)
Baja 03-05 (US)

xwd · 03-31-2012, 03:51 PM

Yes the earlier SOHC EJ251 engines are well known for head gasket failures. The engines which have come along after that do not have the same issue, nor the DOHC EJ251 used in the 98 2.5RS, it was somewhat of a fluke.

TOMIMOTO · 04-01-2012, 02:02 AM

Also, if you boost an EJ251 the max psi you can push is 8. Which gives you little return in power and more than likely a blown motor or tranny down the road.

I drive a 2000 Impreza RS with a SOHC EJ251. I'm on my 2nd engine already.

mrtodd · 04-02-2012, 12:50 AM

Ah, makes sense. Nobody likes a poorly designed headgasket. I guess time will tell when it comes to boost. If aftermarket interest continues at this rate we should have plenty of options as far as HG's and forged internals are concerned - that being said I'm not too worried.

toxicdrift · 04-02-2012, 02:41 AM

+1 as long as the block is good, i dont think upgrading the internals should be a problem, lol shipping a block to india, i dont even want to begin thinking of cost of shipping one.

also im waiting to see how much tuners can push on stock internals.

ZetaVI · 04-02-2012, 06:13 AM

Wow nice find! They are putting out a lot of parts to look out for.

tlp · 04-02-2012, 08:46 PM

I don't think the Japanese Aftermarket industry has been this active since the early 90's! Awesome to see alot of the old big names coming back hard!

03-29-2012, 03:28 PM	#1
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toxicdrift Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Suzuki Carry Location: India Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	+1 as long as the block is good, i dont think upgrading the internals should be a problem, lol shipping a block to india, i dont even want to begin thinking of cost of shipping one. also im waiting to see how much tuners can push on stock internals.

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