11-28-2011, 11:45 PM | #253 |
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Leeky, thank you for the clarification and all the wonderful pictures shared.
It is already in the afternoon and you are still at the hotel replying threads? Go out and have some fun in Tokyo. Meiji shrine, Shibuya station, Akibahara (Japanese Anime stuff) and Ginza (where you will see really expensive stuff...) |
11-28-2011, 11:47 PM | #254 |
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i really doubt the 1000 unit production speculation, that wouldn't cover 1/2 of us on this forum alone , let alone the 5 other 86 forums out there in europe and japan, which are pretty big, few bigger than our own, with better researchers than we have, that want the car prob more than we do... and ive been saving for 4 years to pay this car off when it comes out... sorry but maybe the GT86 is the label for the high end top model... and a 1000 TOP END models would be acceptable worldwide....
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Keep in mind that the initial buyers of this car could be very small compared with the mainstream car buyers. But once they are on the road, they just become the live ad for Toyota-Subaru to attract more buyers. I really do not think they can break-even with 1000 unit/year for this car, but they want to play safe with exclusivity first to attract attention, and this is the goal from Toyota for this car, isn't it? |
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Suppose Toyota make 10,000 cars upon release and all the forum member get one. Great. Then who will be buying this niche market car next? Once the enthusiast community is filled, Toyota may not be able to find more people to buy, and they would then have to crank down the production, which is not a nice thing to do. On the other hand, if they either keep the production low or say they will do this, they can gauge the real interest of this car and the longevity of how this car will last, they can then decide if they want to crank up the production. In this tough business environment, sometime it is better to play it safe than risky. |
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of course if demand is high and supply is low toyota will be able to charge more per unit. everyone's heard of supply and demand.
exclusivity is never a goal when you sell a car under $30k. if exclusivity were a goal, why make it affordable, practical, and why bother with an automatic option? |
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but 1000 units per year are far too low to cover cost (R&D, marketing, distribution and production) at a cheap price. it will take them many many years to breakeven (if at all)......
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which is around 40,000 per year. i'm sure Toyota can find at least 10,000 buyers around the world each year. |
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I show random friends pictures and info about this car all the time and they think it is awesome. I have no doubt that if everyone on this forum, and others like us, got the 86 the day it came out all of their friends seeing it in person would be equally excited as us when we first heard of its inception. |
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they will mass produce this car, this car will do very well, especially in the aftermarket, after seeing the ease of drifting in this car at just 200 hp, imagine with plumes of smoke behind it and 300+ whp, this thing will atract drifters from every part of the world, they will need to make 1000 of these cars just to supply the weekend warriors and drift teams(sad to say) replacing crashed cars... |
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Making this car to be less than 30k will attract lots of people, but if they price it higher than that, many buyers will walk away and choose other cars. For example, what is the starting salary of a university graduate in US these days? 30 - 50K perhaps? If they price it like that, who will buy this 200 hp car with that kind of money? Quote:
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Again, I think the pricing is really the key issue here. Would you want to buy this car if it is priced at 25K, but you have wait 6-8 weeks or longer for delivery? or you really want to buy it now at 35K? That could be the question we need to ask ourselves. Quote:
What I am trying to say is that many people have interests on this car because of the possible pricing of 25K or less, and it is a nice sports car. If the price must go up because of over-spend budget and limited production, what would be the interests on this car then? But, all in all, we shall have some more answers in days time so this discussion could be moot. :happy0180: |
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I think it actually came from a certain pop-idol.
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