am I crazy to like the auto more than manual?

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by chickdigger802

so besides a slow car being slightly slower, it handles about as well as MT right? A la I should be happy sappy enough on windy roads.

Correct. Also, the acceleration difference is most noticeable from a standing start. Roll on acceleration should be very similar unless Subaru really got the overall gearing wrong.

[Razz]

If you have to ask....
Auto is for you.

Why?

More practical.

All the high end sports cars are comming in Auto now.

[bdbx18]

The auto is the safe route for me. You get the best of both worlds with some sacrifices. My last stick was an MR2T and I dread the laborious 3rd pedal in daily congested freeway commutes. A stick is great for the occasional jaunt but not as a daily driver.

That said, an auto on an 86 is not even a remote possibility without the true manual-auto and paddle shifters it has. Some autos even in manual mode will upshift for you but not ours so you can bounce off the redline all day if you choose. For safety reasons, it does downshift if you lug it enough.

Moreover, even in full auto mode, our cars will downshift if you tug on the paddle shifter placing you in quick control in a corner. It will eventually go back to D mode.

My daily commute home starts with a busy freeway in full auto. Then I switch to manual mode when I hit the mountain roads, mostly going between 2nd and 3rd gear. I love the rev-matching as well, just like on my old SMG M3.

Like I said, best of both worlds.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

Doh!!! I guess I got sucked in. Oh well. :happy0180:

You got guys sucked in, I didn't. I knew he was full of it.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by Brzetto

You got guys sucked in, I didn't. I knew he was full of it.

Yeah, but you didn't know that I was the troll that sent the troll that was trolling did you???

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus

...and if you request it the dealer will unlock the 7th gear after your break-in.

Nice bit of trolling there that you threw in at the end of an otherwise useful post...

:happy0180:

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

Yeah, but you didn't know that I was the troll that sent the troll that was trolling did you???

I know that smoking your lawn grass is a bad idea, don't huff the exhaust pipe and post comments ok.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by Brzetto

I know that smoking your lawn grass is a bad idea, don't huff the exhaust pipe and post comments ok.

Is that a spider in your avatar or are you just angry about the last movie?

[BRZfan]

Originally Posted by Razz

If you have to ask....
Auto is for you.

Why?

More practical.

All the high end sports cars are comming in Auto now.

More technically -Dual Clutch.

[BRZfan]

Originally Posted by Brzetto

Are you serious?

He probably is but doesn't know it.

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by BRZfan

More technically -Dual Clutch.

There are plenty of planetary transmissions in high end sportscars, depending on your definition.

There is no inherent superiority to a DCT over a planetary gearbox. In fact, the planetary transmission is more efficient, lighter and handles more torque. Also, planetary transmissions are likely to be more durable.

[Turkish]

Originally Posted by chrisl

Also, I think the auto is a bit heavier (not much though).

It is ~40-50 lb weight penalty. As for what I am about to say, this was told to me by a service rep / manager at a Subaru dealership: Apparently with equal gearing the auto was beating the manual, even without the ability for hard launches; "they" (being Toyota/Subaru) decided to give the auto more fuel efficient gearing so as to not alienate the MT crowd. I personally have no proof of this, just relaying what was told to me.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

Is that a spider in your avatar or are you just angry about the last movie?

That makes no sense, I see you are still smoking things that wouldn't be smoked.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by BRZfan

He probably is but doesn't know it.

I wouldn't put it past a car company to spy on customers. I'm not saying Subaru is but sometimes companies are overcome with temptation to do unethical actions or they were being threatened some by someone in a government.