Random thoughts thread

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Justin Beiber is still single.

Nah he is no longer Canadian!

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

We have been looking for a Manufacturing Engineer for our one plant for 7 months now! Every applicant we have given an offer too has come back and said "nope, sorry, my current employer beat your offer". This tells me they were not truly interested in the first place and were just using us to play the game. The other thing that we run into is that most of the other engineers we spoke with want to be in product development or some other desk only type of position and when they find out they would have some hands on work they just walk away.
Like anywhere there are no "solid bet" professions here but the pool of qualified electricians and millwrights seems to shrink even more every year. Nobody seems to want to go down that road anymore even though (here at least) they tend to make about 20% more than the people that are supervising them!

It's not that new engineers don't want to use their hands it's that they can't hide behind Solidworks and their horrible lack of knowledge and thinking ability would be exposed. I had one at our place claim that the reason holes were dimensioned wrong was because of Solidworks' 'Hole Wizard' was acting buggy. Not because he is a lazy idiot.

The certified millwright thing is becoming a problem because of specialization. The job that I do is closest to that of a millwright, but because I don't do welding or hydraulics, even with an IP Red Seal guy to sign off my hours, I can't get my ticket. But I'm training the ones we hire from outside on stuff like PLC, wiring and servos. As well as pneumatics, which the should know but generally don't.

It's a nuisance for guys like me that are more modernized technically in the millwright field but still under qualified. I'm actually considering part time work with welding and hydraulics just to get my hours signed off.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The other thing that we run into is that most of the other engineers we spoke with want to be in product development or some other desk only type of position and when they find out they would have some hands on work they just walk away.

Originally Posted by Special_K

Uhhhhhh, hey Tcoat! No lie, just yesterday I was talking to guys in the machine shop saying I missed being able to do hands on work alongside my engineering behind a desk. So if you're still looking for applicants, let me know.

Hey, me too! My dream job was splitting time between shop and desk! I miss it like crazy.

But my wife won't let me move so the job's yours, S-K.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dimman

It's a nuisance for guys like me that are more modernized technically in the millwright field but still under qualified. I'm actually considering part time work with welding and hydraulics just to get my hours signed off.

And that hits the nail on the head with the problems we have finding them!
The whole system was set up when there were thousands of plants and a guy would go through the whole program from start to finish in one place. That is pretty hard to do these days.
When we look for a fully certified Millwright we get loads of really good applicants that only need one or two things to finish off. We can't hire them though since it is a union shop and the position is for a fully certified Millwright. The minute they still have one thing to sign off they get classed as an "apprentice" and we would have to offer it to every person in the plant before we could hire them.
The whole system is broken!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Hey, me too! My dream job was splitting time between shop and desk! I miss it like crazy.

But my wife won't let me move so the job's yours, S-K.

Geez Ultra you are too old anyway since I can't allow walkers on my plant floor!
Besides we would probably drive everybody insane if we teamed up at work( staff meetings and email exchanges would likely be a hoot though).

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Geez Ultra you are too old anyway since I can't allow walkers on my plant floor!
Besides we would probably drive everybody insane if we teamed up at work( staff meetings and email exchanges would likely be a hoot though).

Does it count if I don't act my age?

[Special_K]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Hey, me too! My dream job was splitting time between shop and desk! I miss it like crazy.

But my wife won't let me move so the job's yours, S-K.

If I do move to Canada will you guys teach me all your secrets? I'm still convinced Canada is like Switzerland in that everyone is polite and amicable, but if shit honestly does hit the fan there are contingencies in place to kick all the ass using techniques passed down from the ancient ones.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Special_K

If I do move to Canada will you guys teach me all your secrets? I'm still convinced Canada is like Switzerland in that everyone is polite and amicable, but if shit honestly does hit the fan there are contingencies in place to kick all the ass using techniques passed down from the ancient ones.

Tcoat can teach you the ways of the Courteous Warrior. I'm just another ugly American across the river from you.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Geez Ultra you are too old anyway since I can't allow walkers on my plant floor!
Besides we would probably drive everybody insane if we teamed up at work( staff meetings and email exchanges would likely be a hoot though).

THE AMOUNT OF INSIDE JOKES ARE TOO DAMN HIGH

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

THE AMOUNT OF INSIDE JOKES ARE TOO DAMN HIGH

Nothing inside there! Ultra is old and pretty sure you are aware of what happens when we get going.
Now finish your schooling and we can talk as well.
Maybe I can just hire all the engineers on here and build an empire.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Nothing inside there! Ultra is old and pretty sure you are aware of what happens when we get going.
Now finish your schooling and we can talk as well.
Maybe I can just hire all the engineers on here and build an empire.

Well, apparently only the young ones, you pervy old man.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

THE AMOUNT OF INSIDE JOKES ARE TOO DAMN HIGH

Yeah, what Tony said! I don't care if you did finish your finals. Start studying for next semester.

edit: meh, on second read, not feeling the clever.

[S2kphile]

[AznKirby]

lol @ old people banter