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Old 05-09-2016, 05:09 PM   #197
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Old 05-09-2016, 05:17 PM   #198
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It is not only about the Golfs. Maybe Mr. Tada was too jealous with the bmw 1-series when he was visiting us here and thought to experiment with something similar.

I've said it also in the past. When they first delivered this car, they did something different than the others. I am not saying that it was perfect, but it was something that no one else could provide. Now they are trying to transform it to something else that other manufacturers are providing for years and they are doing it much better. I am pretty sure that with such movements will attract new buyers, but this audience will not know what they are doing or what they are buying. There are much much better options and alternatives in the hot-hatch area!
Once again, Toyota wouldn't stop making an 86 coupe and make this instead. This isn't either/or, It's and.

Speaking of doing something different, no other mfgs are producing a RWD hot hatch. No one has in the US perhaps ever. If I'm wrong about that its ok because who is producing one now? That's an extremely big difference in the market when were talking about driving enjoyment and handling to enthusiasts who might buy a GTi or FiST. Those cars (as good as they are) would feel dynamically inferior compared to a hatchback 86 coming in under 2800-2900 lbs.

Mazda has gone a long way with making "the best handling X" in most every category they've entered (Mazda2, Mazda3, CX-3, CX-5, MX-5) so much so that they sacrifice space to add handling/lightness. This specifically is in the interest of being different (and efficient).

IMO a RWD hot hatch based on this platform would be just what the doctor ordered to keep sales volumes high enough to continue to produce the car for more than just the next generation. I'm totally in favor of expanding the line, if the original lightweight 2+2 is sold along with it. Which it would be.

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IMO a RWD hot hatch based on this platform would be just what the doctor ordered to keep sales volumes high enough to continue to produce the car for more than just the next generation. I'm totally in favor of expanding the line, if the original lightweight 2+2 is sold along with it. Which it would be.
So basically Toyota just need to bring back a RWD Starlet, that would really help them keep the "Fun to Drive" thing going.
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Old 05-09-2016, 06:27 PM   #201
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I don't understand the point of this design. I have owned a BRZ for over 3 years and have never, not once, thought that I really needed some additional vertical space in the trunk. This doesn't really do much in terms of practicality and it really ruins the look of the car imho and cheapens it considerably.

If they are looking to make the car more practical, they need to add 3 inches of rear seat leg room.

The real problem, and the reason sales numbers are down, is that it's about 50hp shy of perfection from the factory. I solved the problem with a supercharger, but most people want that power from the factory. I'm just confused why they wouldn't just stick the turbo engine THEY ALREADY MAKE into this car.
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Old 05-09-2016, 07:43 PM   #202
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At least they knew how to unveil the Targa!


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No, no... a TARGA

This is my favorite, but a UTE/Brat would be close second.
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2.4L Targa or refresh coupe with 225hp.... Vroom I'd buy any of those.
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Now you are just making me sad.
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No, no... a TARGA

I would not mind rocking either of those.
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