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Old 09-05-2012, 06:22 PM   #23
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Well STX was faster than STU, STS, and couple tenths off of STR at nats. If the BMWs can be that fast, I dont see why we cant be in there. And I realize the driver is not of this world, but still, the car had to have a little to do with it.
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I think the car belongs in STX but I still don't know if it will be put there for next year. I have a feeling it will end up in STR just due to the uncertainty. STX and STR are probably the healthiest classes and the scca isn't going to potentially upset one.

If someone can get one down to 2550 or so and hit 200whp it's going to be a fast car and I think it could be competitive in either class. STR top to bottom was quite a bit faster than STX.
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I think the car belongs in STX but I still don't know if it will be put there for next year. I have a feeling it will end up in STR just due to the uncertainty. STX and STR are probably the healthiest classes and the scca isn't going to potentially upset one.

If someone can get one down to 2550 or so and hit 200whp it's going to be a fast car and I think it could be competitive in either class. STR top to bottom was quite a bit faster than STX.

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Well STX was faster than STU, STS, and couple tenths off of STR at nats. If the BMWs can be that fast, I dont see why we cant be in there. And I realize the driver is not of this world, but still, the car had to have a little to do with it.
A N D.... street tired cars are faster than SOME R'comp'd classes... :/ ...
Nobodies mentioned at all what SP Class this thing goes to...Ahhhh welcome to as the CAR model turns... Stay tuned tomorrow.... Will the The TWINS get recognized??? Could they become the dominating force that everybody thinks.... time will tell ..and these are the days with our cars...
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Nobodies mentioned at all what SP Class this thing goes to...
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Cars don't get classed in SP automatically, someone has to write a letter and request it. So far, no one has requested the twins be classed in SP. Until then, it falls in the catch-alls listed in CSP. You just can run national events with those listings.
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There is a video of a relatively mild BRZ chasing an S2000 on track and it keeps up. It would likely be pretty close in STR. But i say put in STX and see how things end up. If it stomps there then move it.
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There is a video of a relatively mild BRZ chasing an S2000 on track and it keeps up. It would likely be pretty close in STR. But i say put in STX and see how things end up. If it stomps there then move it.
It's very difficult to move an overdog out of a class. All the people who flocked to that car will be upset. By contrast, if the STAC puts in STR and it's not competitive, they won't upset many people moving it to STX.
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There is a video of a relatively mild BRZ chasing an S2000 on track and it keeps up. It would likely be pretty close in STR. But i say put in STX and see how things end up. If it stomps there then move it.
That doesn't tell the whole story. I was able to keep up with a Viper ACR at NJMP, but obviously doesn't mean my humble track s2k is faster. There can be numerous reasons why. You know what I'm sayin'.
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The other thing is there are cars just as big of threat to the RX8 regime in STX that simply haven't been explored yet. An ITR on 195 Toyos with the right driver would clean up, as would the right 2.5L WRX. IMO, after the Civic got banned from STX, someone decided the RX8 was the STX easy button, so everyone went that route without much regard for all the unexplored potential in that class.
Just wanted to reiterate a couple of these points post-Nats, especially the ITR point. The lone ITR finished 3rd behind the two aliens in STX, and it was far from full prep and also on Hankooks on what I believe were 7" or 7.5" wheels.

Also, the fastest RX8 was 5th and still beaten by the BMWs and ITR, when the RX8 should have had an advantage on the sweeper-heavy West course.

I'm still struggling to see where the FRS/BRZ becomes the overdog as some people are speculating. Considering all the similarities to an RX8, I still think its going to fit well in STX without the need to dump it in STR first.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:45 PM   #33
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Well I suspect we'll have our answer in October. Hearing more and more STR speculation, hoping for STX though I have no dog in fight unless they screw up RT* classes.
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