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View Poll Results: How many 86 owners are planning on getting the Supra?
I'm definitely getting one 27 12.98%
I might get one if they offer a MT 83 39.90%
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:55 PM   #1373
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For now. But then we'll get her tuned, and intake and exhaust, and make her even faster.
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Supras are now for sale and some dealers are asking $20k over msrp up to $100k all in for them. I just can't see anyone actually paying $100k for this.
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Supras are now for sale and some dealers are asking $20k over msrp up to $100k all in for them. I just can't see anyone actually paying $100k for this.
Like it was said earlier, some rich/idiot will.
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I'm hearing that the C8 destorys the Supra because it starts at $60K. As I said in the C8 thread, I'm incredibly skeptical about the C8. I see the Supra being an amazing daily driver and a capable performer for most real world situations at a higher quality than the C8. I agree the Supra in its current form is NOT a $80-100K car without some major upgrades, but for $60K it should be an exceptional value.

I'm excited to see how Toyota builds upon the Surpa. I'm sort of "blah" for how Chevy will shave a few more seconds off of straight line performance with a super charger above speeds of 120+ when that isn't usable in 99% of situations.

Also, the C8 is damn ugly. I can't wait for reviews of the car on the street outside of a track environment. I'm still on team Supra.
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I'm hearing that the C8 destorys the Supra because it starts at $60K. As I said in the C8 thread, I'm incredibly skeptical about the C8. I see the Supra being an amazing daily driver and a capable performer for most real world situations at a higher quality than the C8. I agree the Supra in its current form is NOT a $80-100K car without some major upgrades, but for $60K it should be an exceptional value.

I'm excited to see how Toyota builds upon the Surpa. I'm sort of "blah" for how Chevy will shave a few more seconds off of straight line performance with a super charger above speeds of 120+ when that isn't usable in 99% of situations.

Also, the C8 is damn ugly. I can't wait for reviews of the car on the street outside of a track environment. I'm still on team Supra.
Ugly if you don't like exotic Mclaren look a likes.
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Ugly if you don't like exotic Mclaren look a likes.
Oh, there is no comparing the C8 to a Mclaren.





Mclaren compared to the C8? No. Oh no no no. The C8, like all of Chevy's current lineup, is totally uninspired without any design direction. But the C7 is garbage too, so it shouldn't be too jarring in person.

At least I can give credit to Toyota for having direction and an idea of a design. Weird or no, it is trying something.
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a non-LE just sold for $48k. surprised to see a dealer this early selling sightly below MSRP.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...0563872509618/
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a non-LE just sold for $48k. surprised to see a dealer this early selling sightly below MSRP.

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Maybe that痴 where everyone will go to get their Supra now. Good advertisement for not being a douchebag dealer too.
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I'm hearing that the C8 destorys the Supra because it starts at $60K. As I said in the C8 thread, I'm incredibly skeptical about the C8. I see the Supra being an amazing daily driver and a capable performer for most real world situations at a higher quality than the C8. I agree the Supra in its current form is NOT a $80-100K car without some major upgrades, but for $60K it should be an exceptional value.

I'm excited to see how Toyota builds upon the Surpa. I'm sort of "blah" for how Chevy will shave a few more seconds off of straight line performance with a super charger above speeds of 120+ when that isn't usable in 99% of situations.

Also, the C8 is damn ugly. I can't wait for reviews of the car on the street outside of a track environment. I'm still on team Supra.
The C8 will be a better platform for performance. It値l get better traction. It値l handle better. It値l make more power from the factory. The Supra has the tuning advantage because it comes with a turbo. By the time someone puts $10+k into the Supra it may be faster in a straight line from a roll, but the C8 is the better platform overall. I値l even wager the C8 will be more enjoyable and engaging with a DCT, with the mid-engine, with a torque NA engine, with the shorter hood, with better traction and handling, and with a more cockpit interior.
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Maybe that痴 where everyone will go to get their Supra now. Good advertisement for not being a douchebag dealer too.
yup, some retarded dealers are asking a $20k-$40k mark up for the LEs.

i believe the one that sold is the $54k premium model. so like $6k off of MSRP. notbadobama.jpg
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yup, some retarded dealers are asking a $20k-$40k mark up for the LEs.

i believe the one that sold is the $54k premium model. so like $6k off of MSRP. notbadobama.jpg
I did a search of Supras for sale within 300 miles of Daytona Beach FL. The lowest price I saw was $78,999 and the highest was $159K. One was even listed as used with 5 miles on it for $79,999. I guess they better do all their gouging before the C8 comes out.
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The C8 will be a better platform for performance. It値l get better traction. It値l handle better. It値l make more power from the factory. The Supra has the tuning advantage because it comes with a turbo. By the time someone puts $10+k into the Supra it may be faster in a straight line from a roll, but the C8 is the better platform overall. I値l even wager the C8 will be more enjoyable and engaging with a DCT, with the mid-engine, with a torque NA engine, with the shorter hood, with better traction and handling, and with a more cockpit interior.
I値l second this. Everyone on the internet is hammering the c8 for having a DCT. The supra痴 transmission is light years behind a dual clutch, yet it seems to get a pass?

I値l never own a 菟erformance car with a torque converter. I can live with a DCT.
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People severely underestimate modern torque converters. There's a lot of high end cars from luxury to performance that have opted for the defacto zf 8hp for a reason and the Supra is no different. Slushboxes might have been shit twenty years+ ago but they've come a long way since then. If it's anything like the 86s AT which will lock up as soon as it's possible, even letting you lug the engine, then in practice it won't be different than a DCT in end result. The fluid coupling component would (should) be practically be nonexistent if you drove manually except at the lowest speeds.

I see nothing wrong with the choice to opt for the 8HP when Tada and his team previously used the 960E for the 86 considering the former is quite literally the best torque converting AT on the market. Add in reliability and wear considerations for most AT transmissions and it's no surprise Toyota opted for it. Even moreso when considering the Supra's beyond expectations performance. It's not only a testament to the transmission's engineering and design, but the transmission tuning itself. There's a good reason the AT 86 is also held in high regard amongst its owners, and as said earlier, I have no doubts the engineering team carried over their experience to the 8HP.
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