Alternatives to Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ

[Johnp]

I live in New Zealand and don't have money to buy a Toyota 86, being a university student.

I will get one few years down the line, when they're used and are around 20,000 NZD,

but until then I want a coupe that's comparable to it, less then 10,000 NZD.

My requirements are rwd, coupe and manual. (preferably light weight)

I've been searching and came up with:


mr2 NA, s14 silvia NA, s15 silvia NA, r33 skyline rb20de.

So which one should I get????? And more suggestions are welcome

[86_ZN6]

mr2 with a 3sge beams!

[Wes B.]

If I were you, I'd go with the S15 Silvia, and here's why: bombproof reliability, fantastic car to drive, tons of aftermarket support, and near limitless tuning capabilities.

[Allch Chcar]

The BMW 318ti is fairly close, especially with the M sport package. But it's both low power and rather portly being a BMW.

[ttknf]

S15 is a great choice, but spend a little extra and get the Spec-R (turbo SR20). You'll thank yourself for that decision as the NA SR20'd S15s are anemic and don't respond all that well to tuning (not like the turbo SRs).

[Dimman]

Grey market Suzuki Cappucino.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Grey market Suzuki Cappucino.

Inline three, twin turbocharged right?

Running about 450BHP?

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Inline three, twin turbocharged right?

Running about 450BHP?

Lightweight + front engine + RWD = fun.

It's totally the same thing as the Twins.



Totally.




Heh...

[JoeBoxer]

S15 SR20DET, i will have one someday...

[Johnp]

I really don't like convertibles...

and as for the s15, how bad is NA compared to turbo?

I would prefer to own NA... because less lag and less things to go wrong...


ALSO, ARE SKYLINES (NA) WORSE TO DRIVE THEN SILVIAS?

[ST185RC]

Ever consider an Altezza/IS300? Not sure which one you have down in New Zealand but I would say it's fairly comparable, you'll get 190-220HP depending on whether it's the 2JZ or BEAMS 3SGE. Even though it's not a coupe, it's decently light and has actual usable rear seats. Roughly 3000lbs for the 3SGE variant to 3250 for the 2JZ variant, RWD, Toyota reliability, double wishbone on all four corners.

I love the dash of the IS300, looks like a mechanical watch and is classy.

S14-S15 NAs will yield anywhere from 140HP to 170HP depending on whether you get something with a KA24 or a SR20DE and engine revision. Can't say I've seen many S13/14 that aren't bagged on, I don't expect too much different for the S15.

[JoeBoxer]

Altezza would be a good option too but I still like the S15 it is one of my all time favorites.

[Johnp]

Originally Posted by ST185RC

Ever consider an Altezza/IS300? Not sure which one you have down in New Zealand but I would say it's fairly comparable, you'll get 190-220HP depending on whether it's the 2JZ or BEAMS 3SGE. Even though it's not a coupe, it's decently light and has actual usable rear seats. Roughly 3000lbs for the 3SGE variant to 3250 for the 2JZ variant, RWD, Toyota reliability, double wishbone on all four corners.

I love the dash of the IS300, looks like a mechanical watch and is classy.

S14-S15 NAs will yield anywhere from 140HP to 170HP depending on whether you get something with a KA24 or a SR20DE and engine revision. Can't say I've seen many S13/14 that aren't bagged on, I don't expect too much different for the S15.

Thanks I didn't even think about the altezza.

Would you get the RS200 (yamaha tuned one) or the Silvia s15 NA?

As I said, I really prefer NA over Turbo.

[whaap]

If you want a driving experience similar to the Twins I would suggest a Miata. It's not a coupe but it is a two door and there's nothing wrong with a top down when conditions are right. The only people that put down the Miata are people who have never driven one.