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Old 08-26-2019, 01:59 AM   #8625
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No whine at idle / lower rpm / partial throttle, IE daily driving. Beside the ease of casually being able to accelerate up to speed without even trying you forget its there. Until you go WOT and are happily reminded by both the wonderful sound and the incredible acceleration that you are in fact supercharged.

If 300WHP on E85 or 270WHP on 93 is the most power you want this kit has the meatiest powerband. If you want more power now or in the future then look elsewhere.
Also i wouldn't track this kit either unless you plan on adding WMI which adds more $$. You could do light tracking on E85 but you'll still eventually heat soak.

Personally I think its the best kit for DD but worst for the track.
Perfectly said. DD noise wise is a non factor. On partial throttle at 4k range you get hints but nothing like going WOT. As others said on E85 this kit will give solid power numbers and is mostly bullet proof minus the SC oil consumption issue. Super fun on back roads and DD. Be warned you do get used to the power and it will leave you wanting more. Can't wait to do some auto cross events with the kit in it. Should be really fun.

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Old 08-26-2019, 04:32 AM   #8626
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How come the SC doesn't whine when I rev it while it's in park (AT)?
Is the engine on??

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All seriousness, at standstill shouldn't matter. But RPM and the amount of throttle do matter. Smaller pulleys will whine earlier/louder due to the compressor spinning faster.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:50 AM   #8627
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I've noticed the same thing - I can only hear my SC on high RPMs at WOT. And even then it's not really loud. I have a 72.5mm pulley, but my exhaust is pretty loud haha (ACE header/OP, catless and loud catback).

I THINK the Jon Bond SC oil I'm using might take a little out of the sound, and the fact that the SC unit itself has been rebuilt by them with new/better bearings and seals, and has their breather/"oil consumption prevention"-kit..

Just a guess though, cause mine isn't nearly as loud as a lot of videos might suggest.
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Is the engine on??

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All seriousness, at standstill shouldn't matter. But RPM and the amount of throttle do matter. Smaller pulleys will whine earlier/louder due to the compressor spinning faster.
Well shit. Are you telling me that I should rev the car even more to make it whine?
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:26 AM   #8629
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Got my 210 intercooled kit for sale

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Old 08-27-2019, 08:42 AM   #8630
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Got my 210 intercooled kit for sale

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what is/how did you get that water jacket? does it connect to the normal intercooler plate, and share the same flow, so you basically have coolant completely encasing the housing on all 4 sides? that looks like a perfect solution for heatsoak if people want to track. is it cool to the touch after extended hard driving/tracking?
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:52 PM   #8631
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Seems to be a lot of oil seepage and vacuum leak problems with the Sprintex design compared to the other SC options out there. I really like the kit but the amount of these issues are hard to ignore. Especially letting so much oil foul up the intake.
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:31 AM   #8632
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Seems to be a lot of oil seepage and vacuum leak problems with the Sprintex design compared to the other SC options out there. I really like the kit but the amount of these issues are hard to ignore. Especially letting so much oil foul up the intake.
Keep in mind this was the first kit to hit the market in 2013, being the only kit at the time it had tons of sales/users, tons of mileage and years so way more opportunity to have failures compared to other kits. Think 100 failures out of 1000 kits vs 10 failures out of 100 kits. Most of these other kits came out 2015/16 just for comparison this thread has as many posts as JRSC and Edelbrock combined. And lately these other kits now having been in the market long enough to start showing signs of common failures are all having their own issues pop up.

As far as vacuum leaks its 90% install error. Some do get leaks at the recirculation valve, and some do get leaks at the gasket from blower to manifold. Both are simpler fixes.

The oil consumption is a concern, i think a lot of them are on non intercooled kits not 100% positive though. But heat is usually the killer of most things. So reducing heat and heatsoak should help. intercooler, gold heat wrap intake pipe, cai, E85/WMI, hood scoop and or vents etc... i also switched to tribodyn oil and opened dipstick once fully hot and re-closed it the theory is at operating temp pressure should be around ambient, and slight vacuum when cold.
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what is/how did you get that water jacket? does it connect to the normal intercooler plate, and share the same flow, so you basically have coolant completely encasing the housing on all 4 sides? that looks like a perfect solution for heatsoak if people want to track. is it cool to the touch after extended hard driving/tracking?
Yes cool to touch compared to any other parts around the charger and huge temp difference between jacket temps and metal base of charger when checked with a infared gun.
It shares the same flow/coolant and is just plumbed into the exiting system with a few minor changes.

Water jacket is fabbed out of aluminium with SS fixings .
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For those running CF hoods: what are you running? Trying to figure out which hoods will clear our SC.
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I'm seeing a lot of questions about the whine.

It seems many don't understand the kit has a bypass valve that stays open at low/part throttle that bypasses the supercharger entirely.

As such, if you're not on 50%+ throttle then your supercharger isn't actually supercharging, and you won't get whine.

From there, ditch the standard airbox and move to a pod style filter to get even more noise.

Tldr; hit the accelerator harder if you want the whine.

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I'm seeing a lot of questions about the whine.

It seems many don't understand the kit has a bypass valve that stays open at low/part throttle that bypasses the supercharger entirely.

As such, if you're not on 50%+ throttle then your supercharger isn't actually supercharging, and you won't get whine.

From there, ditch the standard airbox and move to a pod style filter to get even more noise.

Tldr; hit the accelerator harder if you want the whine.

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Ah that makes sense. What's the purpose of the bypass valve, though? Is it a safety measure to keep the SC from making boost 100% of the time and potentially blowing it up?
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Ah that makes sense. What's the purpose of the bypass valve, though? Is it a safety measure to keep the SC from making boost 100% of the time and potentially blowing it up?
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For those running CF hoods: what are you running? Trying to figure out which hoods will clear our SC.
I used to have the Seibon TS hood and it fit just fine. Now I have an OEM hood with the Driveway Labs GT Duct. It's a tight fit but works amazing.
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