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I'm definitely getting one | 32 | 12.17% | |
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01-14-2019, 12:20 PM | #43 |
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If they never release a manual then I won’t be in.
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[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I74_kKtJyjs[/ame]
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Supra is Back with Starting MSRP of $49,990
You don't say. Look who was right...
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/the...a-models.1500/ https://www.supramkv.com/threads/u-s...-edition.1513/ https://pressroom.toyota.com/release...90+dollars.htm Quote:
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Given the stock dynos of 335i's and 340i's, this "335hp" won't be far off the wheel HP. Automotive partnerships make weird agreements all the time, like when both cars make 385hp but one side down plays it to differentiate the models.
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it's probably due to something called market segmentation.
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Isn't the BMW logo a propeller? That's kind of a fan, right?
Wait, you prefer the actual frankenstein OEM mish-mash kit car (GS/IS-offspring RC) because the Supra looks like a mish-mash kit car? |
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I definitely agree it looks better in the video. I can honestly say I like it more than I thought it would, at least externally. Not really digging the interior.
...and on the second video, wow is that guy annoying. I had to stop just has he got to the "and I've ordered one!" statement about 10 seconds in. Just a little too perky...
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I like the stance of the car better in the real photos than some of the renders or driving shots that I have seen previously. It also looks wider and lower than it did in those shots which is good. Overall, I like the look. The only caveats there are the slight "nose up" attitude and the narrowing of the cockpit area which is exaggerated by the dual roof bubble. I will give that a pass due to the need to provide adequate headroon. I am a tall guy.
The interior looks 100% BMW and GT to me. It does not look like a sports car. That is OK with me because I owned both a 1989 Supra and a 1993 Supra and I did not consider either of them a sports car. To me, they were both nice GT cars. I am impressed that they are managing to get one model below the $50K price point. I, long ago, predicted prices between $55K and $63K for the Supra. In my defense, I expected two Supra 6 cylinder models with the lower one having the 335 HP motor and the more expensive Premium model equipping the 382HP version of the same engine. It is nice that they have a cheaper base model and I hope that this means that we may eventually see the 4 Cylinder turbo in NA with a price in the sub $40K range. That would be a model that would interest me. The new Supra is a very interesting car. I look forward to seeing it on the street. It will not be a sports car that I will want to own myself because I like my sports cars to be a lot lighter, more raw and minimalistic. I like how they continue to emphasize the "traditional" 6 cylinder inline engine but never once mention it as being a BMW power plant. They just cover it under a huge plastic cowling with the Toyota emblem on it. This is the Halo car for Toyota. It seems a bit blasphemous that it is actually a BMW under that shapely skin. And a bit sad.
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This is really no different than the 86, which has more Subaru badged parts in it than Toyota.
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Being the current owner of a M240i the interior is 100% BMW.
The only piece that might be Toyota would be the seats. The Supra is current gen BMW interior design with the Z4 is next gen BMW interior design. It sux that the Supra is getting the cheapo ugly BMW steering wheel vs the nice M Performance one. |
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