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Old 07-17-2013, 02:30 PM   #71
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Due to the forums being a way most of you are communicating with us, and us contacting you, I shall make this announcement here.

We have received some oil coolers and are going to be getting everyone, that has had a leak taken care of! From our current stand point, there has only been 5 people affected by the issue. So if you have not contacted us directly, please do so ASAP!

We want to get this issue resolved as soon as possible so I will state it once more. CONTACT US DIRECTLY if you have not already, so we can make sure we get everyone taken care of before selling them as retail.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:41 PM   #72
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Any update when the new ones will be ready?
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:48 PM   #73
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Perrin have been in touch with me proactively , and I'm an oil cooler customer on the other side of the world; I think they have handled this issue well, so far.

Aren't those mocal coolers made by us useless Limeys?
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Ok does anyone else think this is insane? 5 people have had leaks on their radiator and mocal is supposed to pressure test every single unit. I'm not bashing perrin on this, but mocal. What a bunch of marketing BS.

"Each cooler is then tested by immersion to a pressure of 170 psi." Yeah ok.
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Ok does anyone else think this is insane? 5 people have had leaks on their radiator and mocal is supposed to pressure test every single unit. I'm not bashing perrin on this, but mocal. What a bunch of marketing BS.

"Each cooler is then tested by immersion to a pressure of 170 psi." Yeah ok.
Things go wrong; rather more important in these cases are how it gets resolved.

And it looks like Perrin are on the ball.

Can't fault the 2 US suppliers I have used; Perrin, and Essex Parts.
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Things go wrong; rather more important in these cases are how it gets resolved.

And it looks like Perrin are on the ball.

Can't fault the 2 US suppliers I have used; Perrin, and Essex Parts.
Your post doesn't say anything, it's just filler. Things do go wrong, but if they tested the radiators, every single one, like they say they do, none of this would happen. You've added nothing to this conversation other than plugging two vendors.
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Your post doesn't say anything, it's just filler. Things do go wrong, but if they tested the radiators, every single one, like they say they do, none of this would happen. You've added nothing to this conversation other than plugging two vendors.
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Your post doesn't say anything, it's just filler. Things do go wrong, but if they tested the radiators, every single one, like they say they do, none of this would happen. You've added nothing to this conversation other than plugging two vendors.
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Interesting discussion here. I'm on the fence until i can get the new fr-s out to the track and log some miles before pulling the trigger on a cooler.

My experience is that Subaru flat 4 engines run hot. On my 500ish HP time attack car i was seeing temps between 230F and 270F Usually they would hover around 260F when really pushing 10/10... a few times i'd logged 280!! This was with a full size Mocal cooler, extended lines, sandwich plate, and 20w50 synthetic on a brand new motor. That to me seemed hot, but it's hard to gauge what is acceptable because all things are never equal.. ambient temps, etc etc. These temps weren't at the sandwich plate either, these were coming off an autometer sender right in the front oil pathway. Solid oil pressure during any track stint.

The perrin kit install looks so clean, it may be worth it. Good on subaru for putting the filter up top on this engine ... not having those lines running under the manifold like on the STi is a huge piece of mind bonus. That always worried me, even with 3 layers of fire sleeve. Basically the positives outweigh the negatives.. me thinks.

BTW you can't blame perrin for the cooler issue they experienced. Mocal usually makes good stuff, issues are bound to happen in manufacturing.

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It's kinda the same concept as blaming Firestone if you get a bad batch of Yokohama tires. ^^
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Apologies to the Perrins

I owe Perrin an apology.
I had jumped to conclusions.
Story goes thus:
I read of a problem with the radiator.
I see oil on the radiator. (See pics 1 )
I think radiator is leaking.
When the hose flanges were tightened the small oil release pimples (pic 2)
was facing away from the front. I had no idea what those things were until speaking to the local distributor for the cooler.
I fitted a Setrab radiator I already owned and observed oil leaking from those oil release pimple
thingys. I subsequently learnt that those hoses flanges need to be done up tight. I mean really tight.
It took two more tightenings to get the oil to stop weeping from those pimples with the constant fear that I was going to break something or strip a thread.(Yeah, I know thew are big threads). I have now done approximately 150 kilometers without sign of a leak.

I appreciate this doesn't help those who are having a problem but in my case I wrongly stated there was a problem with the radiator Perrin supplied.
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So far my replacement that the owner of Perrin put in for me about a month ago isn't leaking last I checked. They gave me great service and seem to keep going out of their way compared to others to earn my business. If only they carried all the parts I buy and they'd have all of my upgrade money.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I was about to pull the trigger on the Perrin oil cooler, but after seeing how they handled your situation I've decided to spend my money elsewhere.
That's a shame. Many, Including myself have the perrin oil cooler and no issues.

The OP did as he should and posted an issue. We should keep an eye on it and not be a bunch of "internet squawking uptight babies".
Take a look at real car companies like Ford, Toyota they all have problems with brand new cars that "have been tested at the factory" to work properly.
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That's a shame. Many, Including myself have the perrin oil cooler and no issues.

The OP did as he should and posted an issue. We should keep an eye on it and not be a bunch of "internet squawking uptight babies".
Take a look at real car companies like Ford, Toyota they all have problems with brand new cars that "have been tested at the factory" to work properly.
Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like I wouldn't be going with Perrin because their part failed. That happens, I understand that. It was their response to a couple customers with the issue that has made me decide to take my money elsewhere.
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