Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by KoolBRZ

I'll send you a PM when it's ready.

Thanks. I just noticed the OFT site only has ESC tunes up until D00C...

If @Shiv@Openflash or @fenton doesn't have one they can PM me real quick to test it, I'll just have to wait I guess. I'll be done with the install in an hour or so, it's way easy to do.

[914_WHITE_FRS]

@fenton can the phanton sc work on a automatic?

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by 914_WHITE_FRS

@fenton can the phanton sc work on a automatic?

Yes there are several people driving with it.


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[LucidMomentum]

It's installed! The temptation to drive with it without a tune is killing me...

*EDIT* Pics:

[KoolBRZ]

Originally Posted by LucidMomentum

It's installed! The temptation to drive with it without a tune is killing me...

*EDIT* Pics:

Starting with a OFT stg2 D00D tune, I'm going to transfer over the tables from my most powerful tune. it's a bit rough around the edges, and don't let off the throttle suddenly under boost, but in certain sections, at certain RPM's, it kicks ass.

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by KoolBRZ

Starting with a OFT stg2 D00D tune, I'm going to transfer over the tables from my most powerful tune. it's a bit rough around the edges, and don't let off the throttle suddenly under boost, but in certain sections, at certain RPM's, it kicks ass.

Bless you my man. That should tide me over until I get the procede next month

[KoolBRZ]

Originally Posted by LucidMomentum

Bless you my man. That should tide me over until I get the procede next month

Here it is, and, now it's gone again! All my procede maps are getting the throttle percentages rescaled, since they aren't even close to what OFT shows. The ESC WW D00D one just has the ESC and @Wayno's additions, while the WWJD one has all that and my latest AVCS tuning for maximum power. It makes driving fun in my AT's "D" mode.

[KoolBRZ]

Just wait till you get your Procede. This map has some rough edges. But it really pulls harder than anything else I've done yet. My thanks go out to @Wayno for all the work he's done, and @dtek for the Procede maps he's made and sent me. He's the one who rescaled the throttle percentage and RPM axis's for better mapping. Thanks to @Shiv@Openflash for the OFT and the Procede controllers, and especially for making it Open-Source, so we can share tunes freely on the Internet without fear of being sued. I also want to thank @Robftss for all the hard work and continuing development on the awesome ESC.

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by KoolBRZ

Here it is. The ESC WW D00D one just has the ESC and @Wayno's additions, while the WWJD one has all that and my latest AVCS tuning for maximum power. It makes driving fun in my AT's "D" mode.

So I went for a drive with your "D" tune, with the throttle switch set to around %80 activation.

For starters, your tun without the ESC is really good. It feels great and the extra oomph at the low end is great.

However, when I got the urge to push the pedal down... The ESC is something else. You feel it kick in, the voltage drops, and bam you're at 70 mph before you know it.

Then you back off, coast back down to 55 and the voltage is at 28.4 again.

So I took it on the highway, and I basically ran out of MPH on the car before I got below 15 V of boost. I'm not sure in what world you'd need the full 90 seconds of boost.

It's really something. I think I'll change the throttle position closer to 60-70% if I can, and that'll be just fine for me until...

Originally Posted by KoolBRZ

Just wait till you get your Procede. This map has some rough edges. But it really pulls harder than anything else I've done yet. My thanks go out to @Wayno for all the work he's done, and @dtek for the Procede maps he's made and sent me. He's the one who rescaled the throttle percentage and RPM axis's for better mapping. Thanks to @Shiv@Openflash for the OFT and the Procede controllers, and especially for making it Open-Source, so we can share tunes freely on the Internet without fear of being sued. I also want to thank @Robftss for all the hard work and continuing development on the awesome ESC.

Yeah I can imagine how great this will be with morel linear control. You all have done such great work and I really can't be happier with it. I don't think I'll really need any more power after this, especially with the Procede to refine it.

Also thanks to @tyrantcf for letting me pay him back over time for the ESC. I'm basically making his new car payments for the next few months, but it's worth it.

[KoolBRZ]

@LucidMomentum, since you still have the throttle switch, you should probably let it rev to at least 3000 RPM's before you kick in the ESC. It's kind of like nitrous in a way. You only have so much stored capacity, and if you hit it too soon it just wastes it. Make sure to use your OFT and display MAP to see how much boost you're getting. Basically, it's every PSI over 14, (sea level) that's how much boost you're getting. I feel more power at 4000 RPMs and 15 PSI, than I do at 2000 RPMs and 17 PSI. The extra pressure doesn't seem to create power until the RPMs are up high enough. Bottom line, with the throttle switch, the ESC is occasional fun, while with the Procede, it can be constant fun. This morning, running V4 Sport-Procede map, and my most powerful tune, I drove Northeast on Germantown Rd, from left to right on pic below, through hairpins, switchbacks and high banked 10 and 15 MPH corners. It was constant fun!

[KoolBRZ]

@LucidMomentum, corners are why you need the Procede. In what world would you stab the throttle to the floor in the middle of a corner? I can get the same amount of boost at the right RPM with 20% more pedal. I gave it that much in a corner and went from 25 to 65 so fast I had to slow down just to let my stomach catch up. Now I know what everybody means about the shitty grip of the stock tires. I just haven't had enough power until now to push the limits of the tires. Fortunately I have some Michelin PSS's in the garage. Next I'll be pushing the limits of my suspension.

[churchx]

Imho limited-grip gravel / winter / wet driving is another time when i wouldn't want any sudden power rush/kick in but would want it to be as linear as possible

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by KoolBRZ

@LucidMomentum, since you still have the throttle switch, you should probably let it rev to at least 3000 RPM's before you kick in the ESC. It's kind of like nitrous in a way. You only have so much stored capacity, and if you hit it too soon it just wastes it. Make sure to use your OFT and display MAP to see how much boost you're getting. Basically, it's every PSI over 14, (sea level) that's how much boost you're getting. I feel more power at 4000 RPMs and 15 PSI, than I do at 2000 RPMs and 17 PSI. The extra pressure doesn't seem to create power until the RPMs are up high enough. Bottom line, with the throttle switch, the ESC is occasional fun, while with the Procede, it can be constant fun. This morning, running V4 Sport-Procede map, and my most powerful tune, I drove Northeast on Germantown Rd, from left to right on pic below, through hairpins, switchbacks and high banked 10 and 15 MPH corners. It was constant fun!

Yeah that's exactly how I felt driving to work this morning. Am I behind someone? Better not go to 65% WOT or else I'll be in their driver's seat lol. Am I first at the stoplight? Rev up to 3000 RPM, then floor it a bit to get up to 55-60 MPH. Coming out of a corner? Give it some gas to get back up to speed.


With the switch you have to know the system well. With the procede it'll be much more refined and usable at all times.


I'm going to start going to Pismo beach around once or twice a month which means a drive through highway 58:


http://www.lateralg.org/roads/cenwest/2.htm


Once I get the Procede I'll really be able to tear it up.

Originally Posted by KoolBRZ

@LucidMomentum, corners are why you need the Procede. In what world would you stab the throttle to the floor in the middle of a corner? I can get the same amount of boost at the right RPM with 20% more pedal. I gave it that much in a corner and went from 25 to 65 so fast I had to slow down just to let my stomach catch up. Now I know what everybody means about the shitty grip of the stock tires. I just haven't had enough power until now to push the limits of the tires. Fortunately I have some Michelin PSS's in the garage. Next I'll be pushing the limits of my suspension.

Yeah exactly. Last night when I tried it for the first time on the highway, I hit 105 so fast I had to slow down just to catch my breath. I wasn't expecting it all.


I have 18x8.5 wheels with Michelin Pilot All Sport 3 tires, and I still got some tire squeal this morning coming out of a curve which surprised me in the best way. With the Procede I'll be able to really push the ESC and have a blast, but for now it's great fun in a straight line.

[Sojhinn]

@KoolBRZ

When driving around how often does the blue square enter the lower throttle load areas?

I have found that for myself (MT) that the first few columns for the procede map need to be off (-100) or the car begins to stutter on some shifts. This is why on the maps I developed for the procede, I have most of the lower area off.

The only reason I say this is that when you begin developing the MT maps try to pay attention to this area. Those of us in MTs spend time in that area and when we depress the clutch, and let go of the gas... the ESC should activate it's brake for better drive-ability.

Thanks again for sharing your maps, its allowed me to go back to the drawing board on some of my own and take a closer look.

BTW- I hope to test your OFT tunes sometime this week.