EVO: Toyota GT86 vs Renault Clio RS - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Boxer-4 · 07-20-2012, 02:47 AM

Thanks to GCF

yormaX · 07-20-2012, 03:16 AM

The last scan it says the Toyota GT86 Top speed is "225MPH"

Boxer-4 · 07-20-2012, 03:19 AM

Kph there's no way it will do 225mph

SUB-FT86 · 07-20-2012, 07:09 AM

225 km

SUB-FT86 · 07-20-2012, 07:30 AM

Just reading this makes me think back about the video that SubaruWRXFan made about the BRZ not feeling exciting enough and never feeling drama-like. Also I didn't know that the GT86 had understeer? This is the first review I've seen with it.

mclevin · 07-20-2012, 07:47 AM

Finally! Someone compares to cars in the same league...both 2.0l 150kw built with one sole focus "handling" why would you compare it with the rs250.
These 2 cars I was tossing up between. Opted for gt86. Only for the fact I have an ae86 and aftermarket parts availabilty.

And its been well documented that the 86 is set up for understeer ie softer front springs than that of the brz.

SUB-FT86 · 07-20-2012, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclevin

Finally! Someone compares to cars in the same league...both 2.0l 150kw built with one sole focus "handling" why would you compare it with the rs250.
These 2 cars I was tossing up between. Opted for gt86. Only for the fact I have an ae86 and aftermarket parts availabilty.

And its been well documented that the 86 is set up for understeer ie softer front springs than that of the brz.

Its actually the other way around in America.

David1976 · 07-20-2012, 07:54 AM

One of the only questionable reviews I have read on the GT86. I guess you will always have one...

SUB-FT86 · 07-20-2012, 07:59 AM

What also bothers me is how they make the Renault engine seem like it has way more power over the 86's engine which would mean that the Renault's powerband feels more visceral(which I love).

RaceR · 07-20-2012, 09:24 AM

Scans are great!

Wish everyone could scan magazines like this..

Thanks for sharing..

DarkSunrise · 07-20-2012, 10:35 AM

Why is it that the only bad reviews are always coming from Evo magazine? I can't shake the feeling they've never quite recovered from giving that initial BRZ-AT they tested poor marks. It's like they're always trying to justify that initial poor review.

Also, for a magazine that prides itself on being enthusiast-focused, why is it they always seem to find themselves in the least enthusiast-focused Toyobaru models (BRZ-AT, base level FR-S lacking LSD)? Odd...

Turbowned · 07-20-2012, 10:47 AM

EVO, your man card has been revoked! Everyone else agrees that the (GT)86/FR-S/BRZ are the best damn sports cars on the market right now. Why can't you accept it? Keep driving your silly little French cars, you English pigdogs!

alyon · 07-20-2012, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Why is it that the only bad reviews are always coming from Evo magazine? I can't shake the feeling they've never quite recovered from giving that initial BRZ-AT they tested poor marks. It's like they're always trying to justify that initial poor review.

Also, for a magazine that prides itself on being enthusiast-focused, why is it they always seem to find themselves in the least enthusiast-focused Toyobaru models (BRZ-AT, base level FR-S lacking LSD)? Odd...

FRS has an LSD...

Every since Toyota fucked them by sending an AT to a track test they have held a grudge.

DarkSunrise · 07-20-2012, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyon

FRS has an LSD...

In the UAE, the base model Toyo 86 doesn't come with LSD. You can see Evo tested the base model because of the 16" wheels seen in the pictures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyon

Every since Toyota fucked them by sending an AT to a track test they have held a grudge.

Haha yeah also helps sell magazines by being controversial, I would imagine.

07-20-2012, 02:47 AM	#1
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07-20-2012, 03:16 AM	#2
yormaX Rage your Dream Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S Location: Canada, SK Posts: 227 Thanks: 76 Thanked 125 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The last scan it says the Toyota GT86 Top speed is "225MPH"

07-20-2012, 03:19 AM	#3
Boxer-4 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Mt. Fuji / AD Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 159 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Kph there's no way it will do 225mph

07-20-2012, 07:09 AM	#4
SUB-FT86 86 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt) Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3,129 Thanks: 126 Thanked 527 Times in 296 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	225 km

07-20-2012, 07:30 AM	#5
SUB-FT86 86 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt) Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3,129 Thanks: 126 Thanked 527 Times in 296 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Just reading this makes me think back about the video that SubaruWRXFan made about the BRZ not feeling exciting enough and never feeling drama-like. Also I didn't know that the GT86 had understeer? This is the first review I've seen with it.

07-20-2012, 07:47 AM	#6
mclevin Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Ae86, gts86 (coming) Location: australia Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Finally! Someone compares to cars in the same league...both 2.0l 150kw built with one sole focus "handling" why would you compare it with the rs250. These 2 cars I was tossing up between. Opted for gt86. Only for the fact I have an ae86 and aftermarket parts availabilty. And its been well documented that the 86 is set up for understeer ie softer front springs than that of the brz.

07-20-2012, 07:54 AM	#8
David1976 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: GT86 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	One of the only questionable reviews I have read on the GT86. I guess you will always have one...

07-20-2012, 07:59 AM	#9
SUB-FT86 86 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt) Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3,129 Thanks: 126 Thanked 527 Times in 296 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	What also bothers me is how they make the Renault engine seem like it has way more power over the 86's engine which would mean that the Renault's powerband feels more visceral(which I love).

07-20-2012, 09:24 AM	#10
RaceR Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2010 Cooper S, 74 Beetle Location: Norway Posts: 726 Thanks: 239 Thanked 252 Times in 124 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Scans are great! Wish everyone could scan magazines like this.. Thanks for sharing..

07-20-2012, 10:35 AM	#11
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Why is it that the only bad reviews are always coming from Evo magazine? I can't shake the feeling they've never quite recovered from giving that initial BRZ-AT they tested poor marks. It's like they're always trying to justify that initial poor review. Also, for a magazine that prides itself on being enthusiast-focused, why is it they always seem to find themselves in the least enthusiast-focused Toyobaru models (BRZ-AT, base level FR-S lacking LSD)? Odd...

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