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06-03-2018, 08:23 AM | #1 |
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Question on Tire Size for Stock Rims
Hey everyone, im looking into getting a new set of tires for the stock 17’ rims that have 215s on right now. I want something beefier so the rear wheels are almost flush and for a little better cornering. Any suggestions?
For instance 225s on all four corners, or are 245s possible?
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Yes, 225/45 will work, and as a stop-gap solution, it is not bad. But if you want wider tires, you need wider wheels to be optimal.
I just got 215s for my 8" wheels. Because, IMO the wheel was not wide enough for the 225s I had.
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Tire manufacturers have specs for rim width for particular tires. Michelin says you can SAFELY install their 225 PS4S tires on 7-8.5 inch rims. In fact, their specs are based on installing 225's on 7.5 inch rims which is the optimal rim size in their opinion. Installing these 225's on 8" rims is not even questionable so I don't understand where you would get such an idea. Wider wheels/tires deliver virtually no performance benefit over 225's and in most cases are solely installed because owners like the way they look.
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OP asked about sizes, I gave my opinion based on using different tires on different wheels on my FR-S. I have read the manufactures suggested range. OP a 225/45 is not going to flush out the wheel because it has a +48 offset. Spaceres will; with the stock wheels and tires. +15 to +25 front and +20 to +30 rear is what guys are running on stocks.
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You should also have 17x7 wheels, so if you did read the manufacturer's range, you'd know.... Perhaps you can show me the spec sheet you referenced for 225's and 7 inch rims.... I'm always open to learning something.... |
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I never talked about assumptions; You assumed that I think spacers are a performance mod. You are incorrect. They just flush the wheels out. And if your opinion is that it makes them poke, thats totally cool. But many forum members do not feel that a 225/45 flushes out the stock wheel, and thats why they run spacers. I have had over 60 tires on my FRS already, and my opinion is that a 17x7 is not wide enough to optimally run a 225/45. And since OP mentioned 245s, I know he is thinking about them, so my suggestion to get wider wheels if he wants wider tires than 225 is correct. My signature, has my current 18" wheels. They weigh less than stock.
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I'm just trying to give the OP an objective answer and not trying, in any way, to degrade what you have done. For us car freaks, our cars are an extension of us. So if it makes you feel good to do any of this, you should do it.... |
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You mention in another thread that Michelin was wrong about the factory specs. So you already understand that they can be incorrect. I've stated my opinion about Tire width and rim width. You've added a whole bunch of other stuff in with your assumptions. I understand you want to give OP all the information so he can make an educated choice on what tire and wheel he adds to his car. Thats Great! And some guys run 17x9 with 245, even though YOU think it does not increase performance. Additionally, IMO, you decided to not get rims on a basis of budget. NO race team uses stock wheels. So obviously, there are better wheels than stock performance wise. Good luck! This has been a fun back and forth, I hope you don't feel personally attacked. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I have been posting mine here in the wheels/tires section for almost 6 years. Thanks for sharing yours. Check out my build thread for more info.
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Just because someone runs with 10.5" width rims and 265's doesn't mean it's the best performing setup. In fact, there is a lot of evidence that putting anything wider than 225's on the front reduces handling. Extra wide wheels and tires also weigh a lot more. If there were evidence that putting 245's on this car improved performance for a street daily driver, I'd get new wheels and tires in a snap. While there may be some errors in the Michelin specs, I've found them to be far and few between. And when there is an error, it is a large one like the weight of the 225/45/17 PS4S. That error is really obvious. Over the years, I've never found an error in rim width and I've purchased hundreds of Michelin tires.... |
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To OP: The spacers on stock wheels thread in here http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59838 is what you seek. Also bunch more here:https://www.google.com/search?q=spac...w=1920&bih=949 |
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So to get this straight and settle it. I have been looking at getting 225s on the front and 245s on the rear with these exact tires and stock rims. Looking at the feedback that wont work and or wont fit? (I know some people will roast me for looking at Firestones but I have had a set previously and the reviews are also very good compared to others) --> https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...I5XL&tab=Sizes
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