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[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by gav_abr

I noticed that my Pixel 6 has an adaptive charging feature, so if you plug it in with an alarm set, the phone will charge at a speed where it will get to 100% when the alarm goes off. It's probably a pretty good feature for battery longevity.

My iPhone does that. I haven’t figured out how to adjust the maximum charge level on that feature. My understanding is battery longevity is enhanced if you don’t run them up to max every time. If you can top it up to 80% it dramatically increases the number of charge cycles before the battery gives it up.

[bcj]

I do leave wireless, bluetooth and GPS off unless I have a specific use for them.
Then turn them back off immediately after I'm done with them.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by cjd

Don't. Unless it needs it. Short cycling shortens battery life.

My understanding from li-po RC batteries is that short cycling is preferred. That being said, this thing is sub 20% everytime I plug it in, otherwise it's dead before I wake up.

[Capt Spaulding]

I sometimes wish I were more attentive to things like that. However, I am a sloth. With a sloth’s brain. So by the time I think about doing the responsible thing, it’s probably tomorrow. And I have to start over. ;(

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

Right now my iPhone and I get along well. I works. It does what I want 99.9% of the time. I wake up and use it. Just before I go bed it tells me it has 10% power left and would like to be charged. So I charge it. Lather Rinse Repeat.

You know, my biggest beef with it is fuckin autocorrect. Bitch is a fuckin prude. If I want to say Fuck, i want to say Fuck - not duck, or truck, or cluck. It’s a nanny from The Good Place. Fuck! Yeah - that’s right asshole - Fuck

But I can live with that. My android phones used to look for ways to annoy me. This thing doesn’t … yet.

Apple is really good about hiding the ways it annoys people behind marketing. "Nobody would ever want to turn off location tracking, don't be silly by requesting it".

Ok that's not actually a quote, but it's something they would say.

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Apple is really good about hiding the ways it annoys people behind marketing. "Nobody would ever want to turn off location tracking, don't be silly by requesting it".

Ok that's not actually a quote, but it's something they would say.

People complain about “the state” - deep state, surveillance state, nanny state and a host of other states. IMO We/us/me/you are the problem. We’ve created the “electronic convenience state.” We have become slaves to the things that make our existence more comfortable and convenient. I tell my Google home alarm to “stop” beeping the alarm I have set (verbally) for 7am weekdays. I tell her (Ms Google) to play NPR on “whole house.” I stumble downstairs, push the button on my automatic burr coffee grinder, pull a tumbler and bowl and mug and spoon out of the dishwasher, pour some “some pulp” OJ in the tumbler, pour some cereal into the bowl, pour in some pasteurized milk. But first I pour some coffee from my automatic drip coffee maker into my dishwashed mug and pour in some “supersweeticereamflavoured” creamer.

I haven’t even scratched the surface. Or the Surface on which I place my grocery orders, review what’s on Netflix, manage my calendar, oh - and yak with my friends (we’re friends, right) on this message board.

I can just see Humfrz. Damn straight Hum.

Crazy thing is, I’m not some kind of crank ranting about how much better things were in the “good ole days”. At least that’s my story. I really like all these conveniences. I am also somewhat self aware though, in that I realize that all of these things are something of a monster. One that I built and have willingly enslaved myself to.

I dimly recall a porn flick from decades ago, I think it was “The Story of ‘O’, that made the point that the true indicator of ownership of something (or someONE in O’s case) is the ability to give it/them away without a care. If you can’t do that, the ownership arrow is reversed - the thing(s) own you. YOU are the slave to your “possessions.” I think that’s true. If I apply that test, just about everything I have “owns” me. My house, my cars, my wife, my audio equipment, my dog … Everything I think of as MINE - ALL of them. Collectively - They own me. I’m not saying that’s bad. Or good. It simply is. Kinda wild, huh?


Sorry for the TL DR post. Feeling loquacious today. And I never got to my phone.

[Spuds]

I don't particularly subscribe to that definition of ownership that comes from a porno, but you do you bud!

For the fun of it:
There's a difference between the concept of value, ownership, and possession. I can own something valueless or value something I don't own. I can possess or not possess either of those objects.

-The old karting head sock I use as a coaster on my desk has no value but I do own and possess it.
-I have a wife, I value my wife, but I don't own her.
-I own shares in corporations, but those don't come with any possessions.
-I borrowed a book from a colleague and it is in my possession, but I don't own it.

[Capt Spaulding]

You need to ignore the genre of the source and focus on the message. Being overly literal interferes with the point. As you clearly demonstrate, there is a vast difference between ownership and possession.

“Ownership is an interesting concept. In a sense it is internal to the one who has a sense of “ownership” in a thing or even in an idea. Think of copyrights, trademarks and such. Think of NFTs, although I prefer not to.

One could say you “own” the karting sock in the truest sense because it is is valueless to you. But if it is so important to you that you cannot bring yourself to throw it away it may own you. Notice the “may. “.

You cannot, by definition, own an object you have borrowed. At least not if you are honest. And yet, you can short sell a stock you have, in essence, borrowed. It is something you neither own nor possess. Nevertheless, you receive money for selling a “borrowed” asset.

But all of this misses my point. “O” suggests test of “ownership” that is defined by the relationship of the “owner” to the thing or idea. If I write something and someone says “wow, I like the way you put that. May I borrow it?” And I reply, “… surely it is yours to use as you wish.” I exhibit true ownership. If I reply, “you may use it, only with proper citation and attribution” that may change things - depending on my state of mind.

My principal point is that we create things that, once they assume such importance in our lives that we cannot freely part with them, assume ownership of us. Many of the conveniences to which we become accustomed can fall into that category.

Wisdom can often be found in unlikely places. Watching a skin flick sometimes qualifies as “research.”

[bcj]

GET OFF MY LAWN!!! {shakes fist}

[Capt Spaulding]

See. Movies can carry deeper messages.

[pope]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

You know, my biggest beef with it is fuckin autocorrect. Bitch is a fuckin prude. If I want to say Fuck, i want to say Fuck - not duck, or truck, or cluck. It’s a nanny from The Good Place. Fuck! Yeah - that’s right asshole - Fuck

Settings -> General -> Keyboard -> Text Replacement

Add whatever curse words you want as replacements for the curse word, e.g. phrase “fuck” = shortcut “fuck”. It’ll aid autocorrect in learning that you want to swear. You can also do things like: phrase “fuck” shortcut “fk” or phrase “motherfucker” shortcut “mfkr” and reduce your typing while making autocorrect swear for you.

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

Right now my iPhone and I get along well. I works. It does what I want 99.9% of the time. I wake up and use it. Just before I go bed it tells me it has 10% power left and would like to be charged. So I charge it. Lather Rinse Repeat.

Originally Posted by cjd

Don't. Unless it needs it. Short cycling shortens battery life.

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

My understanding from li-po RC batteries is that short cycling is preferred. That being said, this thing is sub 20% everytime I plug it in, otherwise it's dead before I wake up.

Simplified ways to prolong the calendar lifespan of lithium chemistry batteries:

1. Avoid overheating. Heat degrades cells. Degraded cells hold less charge. Fast charging and wireless charging introduce extra heat. Better to avoid both above 80%.

2. Lithium cells are most happy when operated in the 40%-80% range. Below 40% and above 80% the cells experience greater stress than within range. At the low end it becomes more difficult for the cells to maintain current flow. Avoid draining below 20%, physical damage begins to occur internally; the more frequent the cells are excessively depleted the greater the rate of damage will become. Above 80% charging becomes more difficult as finding an open spot for a free election becomes more challenging (picture videos of people getting on trains in India). Charging at the top end generates heat and heat is bad. Smart chargers drop the charge rate to prevent overheating.

3. Overcharging and charge imbalance damages cells. The BMS and smart chargers built into the battery and phone should prevent these conditions, but it’s useful to keep in mind for more simplistic devices or individual cells in custom packs.

4. Charge Cycles are set by the specific chemistry (generally 300-500 for li-ion) and there’s almost nothing you can do about it. Kinda. 100-0-100% is one charge cycle. 100-99-100% is 1% of a charge cycle. 75-59-75% is 25% of a charge cycle. Disregarding the negative effects of upper limit charging, 100 occurrences of the 100-99-100 use case will count against the cell’s lifespan as 1 charge cycle. Similarly, it will take 4 of the 75-50-75% use to equal 1 cycle.

By primarily using a battery charged in the 40-80% range, damage due to high charge, low charge, and heat are minimized and it takes 2.5 80-40-80% charges to reduce total lifespan by 1 cycle. If it takes 80% battery (80-40-80 twice) to make it though a day, it’ll equal 2 lifespan cycles every 5 days.

((500/2)*5)/365=3.42 year use life

*It’s worth noting that the “lifespan” of the cells/battery is not the ultimate end date for its ability to function, but is instead the point at which its ultimate capacity has fallen to something like 80% of new.

**Actions like overnight charging (or leaving a phone on a charger all the time) can quickly reduce lifespan by charging 100-99-100 repeatedly all night long as the charger disconnects, the idle phone uses 1%, the charger refills 1%, charger disconnects, etc… it still takes 100 times to equal 1 cycle, but even at only once per hour you sacrifice 1 cycle every 12 days or 30 cycles a year (assuming 8 hours a night and only 1 round an hour).

***The big factor in a lot of the li-po cells in the rc market is heat. High current draw generates high heat. Short cycling keeps the heat down during the short use time. It’s also generally good and common practice to let the batteries cool before charging and then again after charging before use to minimize heat induced damage.

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

My iPhone does that. I haven’t figured out how to adjust the maximum charge level on that feature. My understanding is battery longevity is enhanced if you don’t run them up to max every time. If you can top it up to 80% it dramatically increases the number of charge cycles before the battery gives it up.

The iPhone attempts to predict when the user will need the phone topped up and trickle charges from 80-100% in the lead up to the anticipated time. There is no setting other than disabling the predictive charge feature.

[Capt Spaulding]

A simple “thanks” seem insufficient. So. THANKS.

It’s bad enough for wife and sisters to remind me that, based on my use of “sailor talk” my years in college were wasted. But to have my phone chime in strains me.

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by pope

Settings -> General -> Keyboard -> Text Replacement

Add whatever curse words you want as replacements for the curse word, e.g. phrase “fuck” = shortcut “fuck”. It’ll aid autocorrect in learning that you want to swear. You can also do things like: phrase “fuck” shortcut “fk” or phrase “motherfucker” shortcut “mfkr” and reduce your typing while making autocorrect swear for you.







Simplified ways to prolong the calendar lifespan of lithium chemistry batteries:

1. Avoid overheating. Heat degrades cells. Degraded cells hold less charge. Fast charging and wireless charging introduce extra heat. Better to avoid both above 80%.

2. Lithium cells are most happy when operated in the 40%-80% range. Below 40% and above 80% the cells experience greater stress than within range. At the low end it becomes more difficult for the cells to maintain current flow. Avoid draining below 20%, physical damage begins to occur internally; the more frequent the cells are excessively depleted the greater the rate of damage will become. Above 80% charging becomes more difficult as finding an open spot for a free election becomes more challenging (picture videos of people getting on trains in India). Charging at the top end generates heat and heat is bad. Smart chargers drop the charge rate to prevent overheating.

3. Overcharging and charge imbalance damages cells. The BMS and smart chargers built into the battery and phone should prevent these conditions, but it’s useful to keep in mind for more simplistic devices or individual cells in custom packs.

4. Charge Cycles are set by the specific chemistry (generally 300-500 for li-ion) and there’s almost nothing you can do about it. Kinda. 100-0-100% is one charge cycle. 100-99-100% is 1% of a charge cycle. 75-59-75% is 25% of a charge cycle. Disregarding the negative effects of upper limit charging, 100 occurrences of the 100-99-100 use case will count against the cell’s lifespan as 1 charge cycle. Similarly, it will take 4 of the 75-50-75% use to equal 1 cycle.

By primarily using a battery charged in the 40-80% range, damage due to high charge, low charge, and heat are minimized and it takes 2.5 80-40-80% charges to reduce total lifespan by 1 cycle. If it takes 80% battery (80-40-80 twice) to make it though a day, it’ll equal 2 lifespan cycles every 5 days.

((500/2)*5)/365=3.42 year use life

*It’s worth noting that the “lifespan” of the cells/battery is not the ultimate end date for its ability to function, but is instead the point at which its ultimate capacity has fallen to something like 80% of new.

**Actions like overnight charging (or leaving a phone on a charger all the time) can quickly reduce lifespan by charging 100-99-100 repeatedly all night long as the charger disconnects, the idle phone uses 1%, the charger refills 1%, charger disconnects, etc… it still takes 100 times to equal 1 cycle, but even at only once per hour you sacrifice 1 cycle every 12 days or 30 cycles a year (assuming 8 hours a night and only 1 round an hour).

***The big factor in a lot of the li-po cells in the rc market is heat. High current draw generates high heat. Short cycling keeps the heat down during the short use time. It’s also generally good and common practice to let the batteries cool before charging and then again after charging before use to minimize heat induced damage.



The iPhone attempts to predict when the user will need the phone topped up and trickle charges from 80-100% in the lead up to the anticipated time. There is no setting other than disabling the predictive charge feature.

[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

See. Movies can carry deeper messages.

I'm gonna enjoy Falling Down again tonight.

[Clipdat]

Classic.

You're gonna RIDE my rocket!