2013 Scion FR-S Priced at $24,200 ($24,930 after destination)

[Canibuz]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

At first I was then I was

[(K)]

Originally Posted by wichiewichie

Yes, it is the mother of all sports cars. Actually, the SI badge gave the idea to BMW set their M division and it was the inspiration for the Z name for Nissan (si in spanish ~ Z in english, get it?). Front-wheel drive is the best layout for driving dynamics. In fact, Ferdinand Porsche designed his cars with an inverted front-wheel drive layout, because he was afraid that the Civic SI's layout is way too much for most poeple's driving abilities. Did you know that Ayrton Senna was driving his Civic SI in reverse (he realized he didn't have enough talent to drive it in forward gears) and that gave birth to the NSX? BOOM, every day you learn something new

We need a rep system, because this man just earned some.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Capt Canuck

Don't feed the troll... anyone who equates the Vette as 'more' of a sports car than the FRS/BRZ is clueless or a trolling pillock.

The Vette is more designed as a sports car than the FRS/BRZ. The engine in the Vette is 100% behind the front axle with 2 seats configuration and a 50/50 weight distribution for a FMR layout. The FRS/BRZ made sacrifices for rear seat passengers and lower insurance rates so I can see why some will call it a sport compact instead. I don't want a full blown sports car as my only car so I am glad the FRS/BRZ made sacrifices.

[Sall]

I think the price is right !! And i also think its legit my guess tomorrow frs ken gushi comercial + frs price debut i think some of you got confused bcuz is badge a a scion and though it would be superrr cheap but no this price will maybe kept ricers out of frs way

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by sprintertrueno86

24.2 and non negotiable pricing right?

well Hello BRZ! I'd pay a little more or negotiate with subaru dealers after initial launch to get a better deal on a BRZ.

I think 24.2 would be acceptable for a 6mt FRS if it came with better HIDs, fogs and BRZ like cloth interior. Not really the "bargain" car I was expecting. I really thought the FRS would be priced at 21.8-22.5 range.

I agree. Plus we are not going to be able to get it below MSRP...

[PACMAN]

Originally Posted by pastuch

Buddy, it's just a badge. If this car was $23000 US and called a Pontiac Spitfire I'd buy one in a heart beat. Brand purchasing and loyalty is for the ignorant.

whoa whoa whoa, I disagree with you. I have had a terrible experience with GM and the way my lemon sunfire was treated. ( I bought brand new and brought the car in ever summer that it was under warranty, several times a month, to have them fix a recurring stall issue. They told me they could not duplicate the problem and thus nothing got fixed.)

Due to the way I was treated, I would not buy another GM. I cannot support a company that does not respect their customers.

[SuperSnipe]

Originally Posted by wichiewichie

Yes, it is the mother of all sports cars. Actually, the SI badge gave the idea to BMW set their M division and it was the inspiration for the Z name for Nissan (si in spanish ~ Z in english, get it?). Front-wheel drive is the best layout for driving dynamics. In fact, Ferdinand Porsche designed his cars with an inverted front-wheel drive layout, because he was afraid that the Civic SI's layout is way too much for most poeple's driving abilities. Did you know that Ayrton Senna was driving his Civic SI in reverse (he realized he didn't have enough talent to drive it in forward gears) and that gave birth to the NSX? BOOM, every day you learn something new

lol you're a clown man

[dookie11]

Man, Ricky Ricardo would say that's "spensive."

[wichiewichie]

Originally Posted by Sall

I think the price is right !! And i also think its legit my guess tomorrow frs ken gushi comercial + frs price debut i think some of you got confused bcuz is badge a a scion and though it would be superrr cheap but no this price will maybe kept ricers out of frs way

Why keep ricers out? I hope lots of ricers buy this car. That will only mean cheaper parts for sale in forums!

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by jor8888

hello Volester turbo and Genesis Coupe.

The Genesis coupe is way more...You have to get the 2.0 R-Spec which is $26,500. But you can get a discount...so it might be the same as a FR-S.

The Veloster has no final pricing set yet...

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

It's not how much it costs, it's the competition when you start getting into the high 20s..low 30s. A 370z for 30 dollars more per month, a proven engine, and 100 more hp? Yes plz. But if it's priced at 24, that's 90 per month less than 370. Which isn't marginal. It's also about what you get for the money. Value. I just saw a 370 for 29k, with HIDs, stupid power, proven car.. brand new. Why would you drop 28-29 on a loaded 86? It stops being justifiable after 26-27k imho

Everyone is entitled to their own purchase. All of the reviews for the GT86/FR-S/BRZ have been a solid 2 thumbs so to compare it to a 370z, GC, Veloster only equates to the options/cost.

This car speaks for itself and even though it might not have the nice options, I'm sure this car will be more fun to drive than all 3 of those mentioned.

[Saber_TRD]

Originally Posted by pastuch

I've imported multiple RHD cars and driven a couple of the GT4-WRC of yore. They were awesome, but sports cars from Toyota have been dead for over 15 years in North America. Now they finally release a new car that you are obviously very interested in but the badge is wrong so you're not going to buy it. How does that make any sense?

Ask yourself honestly: "Will Toyota ever release another sports car in North America under the Toyota badge?"

I'll be shocked if they do, could drive away the soccer moms in their Camrys.

If it comes to that, I'll keep to the older Toyotas and keep rebuilding/restoring. Die hard.

Edit: oh and keep messaging Toyota daily till they do release a sports car under their brand again, even if they don't.

[Smudgeous]

Originally Posted by A Gomez

It is a coinsidence that once this thread started there are quite a few members with single digit posts and it almost seems they are "justifying" the price? I think everybody is just mentioning his/her own opinion and there is nothing to be justified or corrected here. The price is price and it is up to someone's decision whether or not he/she will buy one.

I am certainly guilty as charged, in this case. Personally, I'd previously thought there was no point in cluttering up a forum with more speculation, but now that there appears to be some actual pricing finally, I figured I could actually add some insight as to -WHY- the price is where it is.

To me, making the MSRP of your car within 1.25% of your original target goal is quite impressive. Had the yen been the currency to become weak at the same rate, the MSRP would be around $17,000-18,000 and our minds would have all been blown at the value. We Americans are just unfortunately at the wrong end of the yen exchange rate shift.

[Canibuz]

Originally Posted by Smudgeous

I am certainly guilty as charged, in this case. Personally, I'd previously thought there was no point in cluttering up a forum with more speculation, but now that there appears to be some actual pricing finally, I figured I could actually add some insight as to -WHY- the price is where it is.

To me, making the MSRP of your car within 1.25% of your original target goal is quite impressive. Had the yen been the currency to become weak at the same rate, the MSRP would be around $17,000-18,000 and our minds would have all been blown at the value. We Americans are just unfortunately at the wrong end of the yen exchange rate shift.

I doubt they would of ever priced it at 17-18k even with the favorable yen. Remember they are out to make money...