AP Exhaust Numbers

[ryude]

Originally Posted by vividracing

http://www.cafepress.com/otterdisaster.468953995

???

It just means be cautious of what you purchase. I don't mean that the product doesn't deliver, but that there have been several cases in the past where you buy something and it isn't what you thought.

Caveat Emptor: Buyer Beware

If something seems too good to be true, it usually is...

Etc.

[Jordo!]

A gain of 20 - 25% across the entire rev range with full exhaust?

If true, this plus a super charger (ideally a roots blower) = perfection.

Looking forward to further details...

[Tainen]

Originally Posted by vividracing

2.5" 304 stainless steel piping
Thanks!

For what parts? I see conflicting info on some of the classified ads for the headers:

Originally Posted by KronosPerformance

AP 13+ Scion FR-S / Subaru BRZ Stainless Steel Header -


Agency Power Header: As enthusiasts try to squeeze any additional horsepower out of their power plant, Agency Power has made it much easier with the release of their performance racing headers. The 321 stainless steel headers are a direct bolt on in replacement of your factory headers. The headers replace the factory catpipes and are to be used for racing applications.

The Agency Power Headers have thick flanges and amazing welds to insure longevity and strength compared to the competition. Each pair of headers includes the necessary oxygen sensor bungs. In addition to improving upon horsepower, the headers will also help achieve low end torque for the off the line power feeling.

[KronosPerformance]

I'll fix it on my side. Vivid is the company that actually makes them...their info would be correct.

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Tainen

For what parts? I see conflicting info on some of the classified ads for the headers:

I'd consider vivid the horses mouth for this. Vendors typically post misinformation, or mistype, or forget to edit copied text.

Saw an ad for an FR-S for a dealer that forgot to remove all of the A8 stuff from the post. So the FR-S suddenly had some seriously awesome luxury specs.

EDIT: Kronos posted up and proved the point.

You guys need to stop naysaying. Let them advertise and sell, in the end someone will either prove it right or wrong.

[Cheddar]

When is this going to get answered? Or is this a typo?

Originally Posted by vividracing

Rough numbers as this is without a tune. And no airbox.

Originally Posted by vividracing

These are mustang numbers. Stock Airbox.

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Cheddar

When is this going to get answered? Or is this a typo?

I'm also curious about this one though because that nets two very different results.

[Unleashed]

Originally Posted by denkigrve

I'm also curious about this one though because that nets two very different results.

This was already addressed if you read all the pages

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Unleashed

This was already addressed if you read all the pages

I don't have time to read everyone's posts. I've been focusing on vivid's posts since they're also quoting and not one really addressed that. However the first post shows stock airbox. Sounds like there was a typo or an auto-correct snafu.

I'm not bent out of shape at all by it either. I'm more just curious than anything else. I'm excited that AP seems to have found a method to net some nice gains. It removes the cats, which means I'll never have that, but it's cool to see NA hitting close to what 4PSI on boost got.

[vividracing]

Stock AirBox

[empower-auto]

It was WITH the stock airbox on both runs

[vividracing]

Bringing up this crap is getting old pretty quick. Its been addressed here many times.

Its time to get over it and move on. We are not even the same staff as back then. I also am from NASIOC. I have my personal account there. I do not see how you can compare back then with now amd how I am handling things on this site.

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Tainen

I'm sorry, and I know this post will be deleted soon enough, but there is a very, very good reason Vivid and AP were banned from Nasioc. Just do a search sometime. They produce cheap chinese knockoff crap for most of their parts, and have screwed over lots of customers. Even recently.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...t=vivid+racing

That's why I am skeptical.

As was mentioned already by vivid MANY times. Staff was changed. Rather than bring up old stuff and refusal to move on, allow them to have a second chance. If they spill lines of BS and screw up, then it's on them. All you're doing by bringing up old stuff like this after the shop claims things are different is holding a grudge for something you didn't personally experience.

Give them a chance. You won't be buying this product anyway. If they are full of it, then they'll get slammed.

I'm also PMing you really quick since you're a swell dude and I'm concerned about something.

[was385]

This may have already been asked, but is there a dyno with the stock header and the new exhaust. I'd be interested to see how much of these gains are from the header.