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cf6mech · 10-29-2016, 11:17 PM

Was under the impression Vorschlag exhaust (long tubes back) will be part of a stage in a kit, I could be wrong though, I do have issues with it if you want to PM me. Personally I would do your own exhaust solution, you almost have to go with shorties or stock manifold on this car unless you want to introduce all sorts of other issues, trust me I'm living with them and as soon as I can these long tubes are going bye bye. What ever gains I lose can easily be made up elsewhere.....just saying, others may have the patience or make them work. Originally it is not what I wanted anyway, but I took one for the team... LOL!....stupid me.

ILLSMOQ · 10-30-2016, 10:15 PM

I hear what you're saying about about exhaust clearance and tight fitment issues...I've had to bang and dent some headers and exhaust in the past to make them fit right. I ran across this video today and it's worth watching.

M1K3 · 10-31-2016, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ILLSMOQ

I hear what you're saying about about exhaust clearance and tight fitment issues...I've had to bang and dent some headers and exhaust in the past to make them fit right. I ran across this video today and it's worth watching.

You should take a look at the new video that came out today:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7_lSU3D0jw"]Power Test: Cast Manifolds vs. Headers - Engine Masters Ep. 15 - YouTube[/ame]

Sorry for Thread Jacking

DustinS · 10-31-2016, 09:47 AM

How about some $150 Up/Forward or Down/Forward Turbo Headers. Then you just have to route a downpipe or two AND make crazy power.

eBay LS Turbo Header

ILLSMOQ · 10-31-2016, 10:31 AM

In that second video...Are those cast iron hooker manifolds the ones you were talking about @cf6mech?

Headers are almost always a pain to install...but I love what long tubes do for the sound of the exhaust, for me the power gain is secondary. With heat and clearance being such an issue on this car, I'll definitely be having them ceramic coated inside and out.

cf6mech · 10-31-2016, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ILLSMOQ

In that second video...Are those cast iron hooker manifolds the ones you were talking about @cf6mech?

Headers are almost always a pain to install...but I love what long tubes do for the sound of the exhaust, for me the power gain is secondary. With heat and clearance being such an issue on this car, I'll definitely be having them ceramic coated inside and out.

Heat issues cooking rear brake lines and having oem placement of front sway bar, among other issue....

cf6mech · 10-31-2016, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by M1K3

You should take a look at the new video that came out today:

Sorry for Thread Jacking

Great video and the reason why I'm opting for the cast iron Hooker manifold, my engine is stock and makes more than enough horsepower for my purpose, having them explain on a stock engine long tubes make little to no difference was helpful .

HTA_EVO8 · 11-01-2016, 09:14 AM

Disclaimer, I did not watch the video so don't know what the result is
But you Need a tune to get the gain from the long tube and you will need a tune for the swap

Summerwolf · 11-01-2016, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HTA_EVO8

Disclaimer, I did not watch the video so don't know what the result is
But you Need a tune to get the gain from the long tube and you will need a tune for the swap

That is common knowledge.

DustinS · 11-01-2016, 09:41 AM

Clutch, Fuel Fittings, and exhaust should be here today. Though my Summit Racing order says it is out for deliver in a town about 30 minutes outside the city I live it. So we will see if it actually arrives. Going to give them a call and double check.

I think I am going to try and make a video documenting the swap so other have something to go off of.

M1K3 · 11-01-2016, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DustinS

I think I am going to try and make a video documenting the swap so other have something to go off of.

Please do, and it doesn't have to be too long, just even a run down of all your parts would be awesome.

DustinS · 11-01-2016, 01:55 PM

Summit Order Came in. I went ahead and opened it (mostly because I am not patient enough to wait) because my Grandpa is almost as excited for the project and wanted to see what came in. (Though he said buying a '57 Chevy would have been easier).

I'll get a video of the Summit Packages/whats inside, as well as the exhaust.

HTA_EVO8 · 11-01-2016, 07:15 PM

So everybody know you need a tune
But if you gonna go through the hassle of swapping then it's worth Going the xtra mile to include the long tube.
400whp maybe a lot of power at lower speed in lower gear but doing highway pull in 3rd and taller gear you gonna find out you need another 100hp or so to take the car into the 10s
With the twin 400whp will only take it to about a high 11s , Im guessing based on my FM built LS3 NB Miata which currently weigh in at 2667lbs and pull 400whp on a dyno jet

ILLSMOQ · 11-01-2016, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinS

Summit Order Came in. I went ahead and opened it (mostly because I am not patient enough to wait) because my Grandpa is almost as excited for the project and wanted to see what came in. (Though he said buying a '57 Chevy would have been easier).

I'll get a video of the Summit Packages/whats inside, as well as the exhaust.

What's in the box dude!

10-29-2016, 11:17 PM	#43
cf6mech Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: FRS Silver LS1 swapped. Location: Texas Posts: 752 Thanks: 621 Thanked 766 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 39 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Was under the impression Vorschlag exhaust (long tubes back) will be part of a stage in a kit, I could be wrong though, I do have issues with it if you want to PM me. Personally I would do your own exhaust solution, you almost have to go with shorties or stock manifold on this car unless you want to introduce all sorts of other issues, trust me I'm living with them and as soon as I can these long tubes are going bye bye. What ever gains I lose can easily be made up elsewhere.....just saying, others may have the patience or make them work. Originally it is not what I wanted anyway, but I took one for the team... LOL!....stupid me. Last edited by cf6mech; 10-30-2016 at 08:13 PM.

10-31-2016, 09:47 AM	#46
DustinS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FR-S Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,948 Thanks: 2,538 Thanked 1,412 Times in 804 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	How about some $150 Up/Forward or Down/Forward Turbo Headers. Then you just have to route a downpipe or two AND make crazy power. eBay LS Turbo Header __________________

11-01-2016, 09:41 AM	#52
DustinS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FR-S Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,948 Thanks: 2,538 Thanked 1,412 Times in 804 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Clutch, Fuel Fittings, and exhaust should be here today. Though my Summit Racing order says it is out for deliver in a town about 30 minutes outside the city I live it. So we will see if it actually arrives. Going to give them a call and double check. I think I am going to try and make a video documenting the swap so other have something to go off of. __________________

11-01-2016, 01:55 PM	#54
DustinS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FR-S Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,948 Thanks: 2,538 Thanked 1,412 Times in 804 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Summit Order Came in. I went ahead and opened it (mostly because I am not patient enough to wait) because my Grandpa is almost as excited for the project and wanted to see what came in. (Though he said buying a '57 Chevy would have been easier). I'll get a video of the Summit Packages/whats inside, as well as the exhaust. __________________

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10-30-2016, 10:15 PM	#44
ILLSMOQ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Drives: 2017 WR BLUE BRZ Location: San Jose Posts: 641 Thanks: 608 Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I hear what you're saying about about exhaust clearance and tight fitment issues...I've had to bang and dent some headers and exhaust in the past to make them fit right. I ran across this video today and it's worth watching.

10-31-2016, 10:31 AM	#47
ILLSMOQ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Drives: 2017 WR BLUE BRZ Location: San Jose Posts: 641 Thanks: 608 Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In that second video...Are those cast iron hooker manifolds the ones you were talking about @cf6mech? Headers are almost always a pain to install...but I love what long tubes do for the sound of the exhaust, for me the power gain is secondary. With heat and clearance being such an issue on this car, I'll definitely be having them ceramic coated inside and out.

11-01-2016, 09:14 AM	#50
HTA_EVO8 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Drives: Blue lotus exige Location: Kansas city Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Disclaimer, I did not watch the video so don't know what the result is But you Need a tune to get the gain from the long tube and you will need a tune for the swap

11-01-2016, 07:15 PM	#55
HTA_EVO8 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Drives: Blue lotus exige Location: Kansas city Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So everybody know you need a tune But if you gonna go through the hassle of swapping then it's worth Going the xtra mile to include the long tube. 400whp maybe a lot of power at lower speed in lower gear but doing highway pull in 3rd and taller gear you gonna find out you need another 100hp or so to take the car into the 10s With the twin 400whp will only take it to about a high 11s , Im guessing based on my FM built LS3 NB Miata which currently weigh in at 2667lbs and pull 400whp on a dyno jet

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