Why doesn't traction/stability control actually turn off?

[Jesse36m3]

Originally Posted by Ganthrithor

Yeah, sport mode doesn't really let you drift or anything, it just lets you drive the car hard. You can add throttle in a corner to the point where you feel a little suggestion of slip, like the rear end is just smearing a little bit around the corner, but the computers will stop you as soon as you get any visible yaw rate going.

Sport is perfect for street driving-- just enough leeway to let you enjoy yourself. If you want to go sideways in the rain / snow / whatever you just have to turn it off (as everyone's said, hold down the off button until you get the two amber lights).
@Stang70Fastback I liked your parking lot video :3

Pretty much spot on. I'd like to add that the tcs "off" setting will still kick in at extremely sharp yaw rates like getting 70-80% sideways around a 90* corner. It's pretty frustrating because I've been in the zone, ready to accept the slide, then all of a sudden NOPE CAN'T DO THAT, SORRY kicks in and screws you all up and makes you look like you can't drive.

[PWBRZ]

I too have 'bumped up' against the auto LSD in the past, thinking I could have some fun but ended up looking like a clown when the car recovered itself. But at least at the track (Buttonwillow) it doesn't seem to matter at all what mode VSC is in; even fully on, not in sport mode, it allows for a very slight drift outward and I've only once seen the dash light flash. But for the most part I leave it in sport mode for all track days.

[Eski]

I found this video helpful when i was asking these questions:[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=j8qggahGNH0"]Toyota 86 Traction Control Demonstration [SKIDPAD] - YouTube[/ame]

[atledreier]

When I turn the nannies off, they stay off unless it detects a wheel off the ground. I've spun it enough times to know... :-p

[Eski]

Originally Posted by atledreier

When I turn the nannies off, they stay off unless it detects a wheel off the ground. I've spun it enough times to know... :-p

i feel like the auto re-engage has been changed as the newer models come out. people have said on here that they have to hold the button down and then it still re engages over 30 etc however on my 15 i have never had to hold the button down, the trac turns off and does not re engage unless i push the button once again.

[burdickjp]

I've a 2013 FR-S and holding down the TCS button for 3 seconds gives me the two lights, whether I'm moving or not. They stay on until I turn them off.
There does seem to be some throttle modulation intervention at large slip angles.
I'd like it if the pedal dance would allow EBD to continue to function, as EBD is AWESOME.

[themadscientist]

Perhaps the bumps scare the system because of the torsen diff. They don't like it when a wheel comes up.

[atledreier]

I have a 2012, and I've never felt any intervention as long as my wheels stay on the ground. If I lift a wheel the sliplight comes on momentarily, and immediately disengage again once contact is made.

[burdickjp]

Originally Posted by atledreier

I have a 2012, and I've never felt any intervention as long as my wheels stay on the ground. If I lift a wheel the sliplight comes on momentarily, and immediately disengage again once contact is made.

I'd be interested in some feedback from people with clutch LSDs.

[gravitylover]

^^ Both lights on with a 5+ second hold, just a wee bit of slip and throttle gets cut while lights are flashing. Takes all the fun out of sliding a corner when it's wet or sandy/snowy.

[MGPAX]

Originally Posted by gravitylover

^^ Both lights on with a 5+ second hold, just a wee bit of slip and throttle gets cut while lights are flashing. Takes all the fun out of sliding a corner when it's wet or sandy/snowy.

Found this. [ame]http://youtu.be/dj7WIlliwgQ[/ame]

[gravitylover]

I'll try to remember on the way to work in the morning.

[atledreier]

Originally Posted by gravitylover

^^ Both lights on with a 5+ second hold, just a wee bit of slip and throttle gets cut while lights are flashing. Takes all the fun out of sliding a corner when it's wet or sandy/snowy.

What button are you holding, and what two lights come on? I have three lights in my dash, the green sports, the TCS off and the other one (can't remember). Holding the sport button does nothing, the green and amber light comes on immediately and stays on, and you still have VSC engaged. Holding the TCS OFF button 3+ seconds means two amber ligths and NO VSC interaction for me, I can slide all day long as long as I don't lift a wheel the VSC does NOTHING to save me.

[gravitylover]