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Old 10-19-2014, 07:10 PM   #1
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Thoughts on sourcing custom turbo kit

Hey all I am looking for a cheap, reliable turbo kit that can get me between 300-350whp. I am not looking for anything crazy and want this to run on a stock car. I was wondering however what you all thought of this idea. I love the price of the Cxracing kit but hate that they use chinese turbos and wastegates. Their manifold and down pipe seem of good quality and their intercooler seems decent as well. So here is the idea. I was thinking of buying the following:

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$1068.00
Manifold:
- 11 Gauge Thick Wall Manifold
- T3 Turbo Flange
- 38mm Wastegate Flange
- 1.9" Equal Length Runners

Donwpipe:
- 3" Stainless Steel
- 3" Vband Connection
- Connects to Catback Position


$548.00
Intercooler:
-Bar & Plate Intercooler
-Core Size: 22 x 7 x 2.5 inch
-Overall Size: 28 x7x 2.5 inch
-2.5" Thick Core, 2.5" Inlet & Outlet

Piping:
-3" Pipe Connects to Throttle Body, then Reduce to 2.5" Intercooler Pipes

Turbo Intake:
-2.75" Intake Pipe
-Air Fitler is Placed In the Front Center of the Chassis, Picks Up Cold Air

Total cost of above items $1608.00

I would then source a Tial BOV $240.00

and an actual decent non chinese turbo $400-600

Total cost of everything for basic kit: around $2200-2400.00

Any thoughts? Flame on!
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Cheap, reliable, custom; pick two.

You forgot to include tuning into your price. I think I would go with some of the more proven vendors on here like Full Blown, MA Performance, JDL, etc... There is a lot of feedback, testing, and documentation of their products on here already, and if things go wrong their customer service is top notch.
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Cheap, reliable, custom; pick two.

You forgot to include tuning into your price. I think I would go with some of the more proven vendors on here like Full Blown, MA Performance, JDL, etc... There is a lot of feedback, testing, and documentation of their products on here already, and if things go wrong their customer service is top notch.
Not to mention a supercharger will get to that power level closer to that price than any off the shelf turbo kit that has been put into production yet.
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Cheap, reliable, custom; pick two.

You forgot to include tuning into your price. I think I would go with some of the more proven vendors on here like Full Blown, MA Performance, JDL, etc... There is a lot of feedback, testing, and documentation of their products on here already, and if things go wrong their customer service is top notch.
Well even the kits the provide maps still suggest getting it dyno tuned which is why I didn't. I would have it tuned when its installed.
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Not to mention a supercharger will get to that power level closer to that price than any off the shelf turbo kit that has been put into production yet.
Yeah, really want a turbo just in case I do decide to upgrade in the future. Plus I know it's stupid but I love the feeling of boost building. I was going to go with the AVO or SBD kit, but figured this may be a cheaper route and would allow me to choose which turbo I get as well and a quality BOV such as TIAL. Might just save up and get one of them anyway.
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Yeah, really want a turbo just in case I do decide to upgrade in the future. Plus I know it's stupid but I love the feeling of boost building. I was going to go with the AVO or SBD kit, but figured this may be a cheaper route and would allow me to choose which turbo I get as well and a quality BOV such as TIAL. Might just save up and get one of them anyway.
custom is never cheap. That being said FBM's turbo kit is ludicrously cheap for what it offers. base kit will give you amazing results with tide and true reliability. The downside is that the turbo kits in general are inherently more expensive than supercharger kits.
@Dipstik-sportech has the FBM base kit (with an upgraded turbo) and he has much more power than what your asking for.
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custom is never cheap. That being said FBM's turbo kit is ludicrously cheap for what it offers. base kit will give you amazing results with tide and true reliability. The downside is that the turbo kits in general are inherently more expensive than supercharger kits.
@Dipstik-sportech has the FBM base kit (with an upgraded turbo) and he has much more power than what your asking for.
But this isn't really custom just taking a kit and switching to a better turbo and wastegate. O get what you're saying though.
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But this isn't really custom just taking a kit and switching to a better turbo and wastegate. O get what you're saying though.
Which kit, that cxracing in the OP?
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I would be wary of anything chinese but thats me and personal experiance. As long as its not FA20Club, no one will care lol.
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You're forgetting: the cost of your downpipe, map sensor, tuning platform, oil feed/return. Are you fabricating everything yourself? Welders aren't cheap. Are you ok with a used turbo? I found a good gt3076 for $600... just gotta get lucky. I went custom and spent something like $3500 with ecutek tuning. If I had to do it again I'd just buy the avo or sbd kit and call it a day. Too much drama going custom trying piece everything together, waiting for parts, getting parts that don't fit, making things fit, ect. Unless ur designing something new or different and doing all the work yourself.... there's no point. Buy a kit.
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You're forgetting: the cost of your downpipe, map sensor, tuning platform, oil feed/return. Are you fabricating everything yourself? Welders aren't cheap. Are you ok with a used turbo? I found a good gt3076 for $600... just gotta get lucky. I went custom and spent something like $3500 with ecutek tuning. If I had to do it again I'd just buy the avo or sbd kit and call it a day. Too much drama going custom trying piece everything together, waiting for parts, getting parts that don't fit, making things fit, ect. Unless ur designing something new or different and doing all the work yourself.... there's no point. Buy a kit.
What would I be frabricatimg ? And it comes with a down pipe. With that said though I agree on just getting a kit.
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Just get SBD kit. You can use the free map. call it done
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Just get SBD kit. You can use the free map. call it done
Yeah I'll either get the SBD, Ultimate Racing or Used AVO kit. Decided against going through all of this.
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