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Yeah from what I understand they are basically instructor level drivers. Instructor does not mean professional, but it'd be strange to disregard their times because they're amateurs. For example we know the S2000 is faster than the 86 in autocross from regional and national autocross results, despite it being amateur level competition.
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Wouldn't a swing from 60 degrees pavement temp in the morning or on a cloudy day vs. 90 degrees pavement temp at 3pm on a sunny day be totally plausible weather conditions for Virginia? Especially given the test time in late fall?
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Now if you don't want to downshift because you don't like all the noise it makes at high RPM, ok I can understand that. But you can plug the sound tube and it will be much quieter I think the FR-S needs to have an AVCS light the way the Civic SI has a i-VTEC light. I know it's really gimmicky but I think we need it on our car so people know that if it doesn't light up, you're driving it wrong.
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So is a 2 second difference significant? I don't know. I don't know anything about the drivers. Maybe one is 3 seconds slower than the other. Maybe one doesn't drive that type of car well. Maybe they had a bad day. Professional car driver reviewers regularly beat the "magazine" lap times by 5 seconds or sometimes more, so 2 seconds isn't that big a difference when you take into account driver skill. The 2 tests were also on different years. also no one can really verify cause no one else runs that stupid vir grand east course config. |
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More than weather or driving, I think the bigger factor on internal consistency would be the re-paving that happened at VIR. But again that skews in favor of the ND since it ran after the course was made faster.
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Going back to the OP...looking past the obvious convertible aspects of the Miata, I think people tend to "feel" the Miata is a more fun ride is because of body roll. The body roll of the new Miata gives you that feeling of the car about to break loose I think, and the newest Miata has massive body roll. Go to your next local autocross event and watch a new Miata go down a slalom, it looks very intense. The twins don't really give you that feeling of body roll thus to someone not really familiar with the car would probably think its boring compared to the Miata that throws you around.
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didn't read through the whole thread but... if you're worried about what people think by a camry.
And if your implying people don't talk negatively about the miata idk what rock you've been living under.... every time miata gets mentioned the word "gay" follows shortly after.
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When i drove the car during a test i didnt feel the car was underpowered to the extent people are saying. What i did feel was that it didnt feel as fast as its quarter mile time suggests. If youre used to peddal mashing v8s offcourse its gonna feel slow. Use the gear box, this car is designed for that purpose. To be worked, to be given a spanking. The art of driving this thing is precisely that. Old school manual drivers will know what im talking about as most affordable cars back in the day didnt have this sort of power.
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My last comment is that new pavement =\= faster, quite a few tracks have gotten slower with fresh pavement, but I'm sure you know VIR better than I do on that front. |
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