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Old 05-28-2012, 11:19 PM   #57
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Should we expect to see this same issue on the BRZ?
The tail lights are the same so unless built after the fix then BRZ will likely have the same issue.
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That's what I was thinking. Thanks
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Wow! You go Moto-San! Keeping us connected with the big-wigs!
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My RX-8 had the exact same issue on the tail lights. Definitely get it in there for replacement as the condensation can wreak havoc on the reflective materials.

Those of us out of warranty had to take to drilling vents in the bottom to get it to go away.

Yeah a buddy of mine drove around like that in his RX8 for a bit. We always joked around about having a fish tank in the back of his car cuz there was actually water that collected in his taillights. lol
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Great to see such a quick response. Wow!
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Ok guys, problem solved at the assembly line, according to CE. And here's what to do if you have mild condensation.

There seems to have been some tail-lamp assembly not fully seated in the body bezel and screwed into place, causing tiny crack in the housing back side on rare cases.

To inspect, just loosen the tail-lamp housing nuts, and see if there are any cracks. If not just screw it back in, and your car should be perfectly fine.

In the meantime, it will not affect the performance of the tail lamps in any way, and if the problem develops in rare cases afterwards, it is under warranty. This should not be a common issue they say, and is covered under normal warranty.

Again, you MUST love Toyota for getting right up and quick to fix any issues.
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Ok guys, problem solved at the assembly line, according to CE. And here's what to do if you have mild condensation.

There seems to have been some tail-lamp assembly not fully seated in the body bezel and screwed into place, causing tiny crack in the housing back side on rare cases.

To inspect, just loosen the tail-lamp housing nuts, and see if there are any cracks. If not just screw it back in, and your car should be perfectly fine.

In the meantime, it will not affect the performance of the tail lamps in any way, and if the problem develops in rare cases afterwards, it is under warranty. This should not be a common issue they say, and is covered under normal warranty.

Again, you MUST love Toyota for getting right up and quick to fix any issues.
But it is all because of you man! Gettin in touch with sir Tada made the next batch of cars not to have this issue..
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That's great, @Moto-P. Thanks for relaying the information.

It is really incredible to think of all the tolerances and fitments that go in to making this type of vehicle. Even more incredible is how this feedback made it to the production line and now back to consumers with a solution.

Future owners may never know this happened but it speaks to the commitment Team 86 has for keeping us informed and capable of caring for our vehicles.

Good stuff.
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That's great, @Moto-P. Thanks for relaying the information.

It is really incredible to think of all the tolerances and fitments that go in to making this type of vehicle. Even more incredible is how this feedback made it to the production line and now back to consumers with a solution.

Future owners may never know this happened but it speaks to the commitment Team 86 has for keeping us informed and capable of caring for our vehicles.

Good stuff.
It sure is remarkable. Power of internet, forums, communities and the harnessing of the information and improving cars yet another way. Toyota (and Subaru) is on the right track.
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You all will not believe this...

Just 48 hours after I send the Chief Engineer Tada, about the mild condensation issue.

He has stopped whatever he was doing in Abu Dahbi, called the plant to investigate and had them find the issue, corrected it on the production line, and reported back to me for all of you.

"The slight issue was in the assembly process, and has been corrected and recorded.
There is no issue with the lamp assembly housing itself, and if there are indications of this on some cars already delivered, please contact your Scion dealers/Subaru dealer for a simple remedy."
<--my translation, not exact Japanese words verbatim.

I'm still awaiting his reply if this was something we can fix ourselves...as he never mentioned exactly what it was.
I'm sort of suspecting loose harness gasket or nut on the lamp housing?
He'll get back to me, or through a Toyota bulletin with something official, I suppose. Stay tuned.

Talk about QUICKLY getting things done!! Way to go Toyota!
Eh... What he was doing in Abu Dahbi? Testing the new Supra?
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Eh... What he was doing in Abu Dahbi? Testing the new Supra?
Tada-san is having fun and hard at work doing PR and as product spokesman in Abu Dahbi, UAE here with GT86's, with journalists and officials at the Marina Circuit, a Formula One class FIA venue.
Yes, he stopped what he was doing here to take care of this issue with wet tail lamp thing.

Chief Tada hasn't gone home for more than a few days a month between his global travel and PR work lately.
So everyone please say "thanks" to all the Team86 being on top of it all, everywhere in the world, constantly.


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Wasn't what I really expected, but it's still a fun thing to do.
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This is Chief Tada, last week, at the Nurburgring Germany, over-seeing the VLN 24 hour race...
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Tada san's schedule is busier than a F1 driver.

Between Nurburgring and Abu Dahbi he was in Hing Kong and he is coming to Australia this week. He must have millions of frequent flyer points lol
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