New to manual driving, shifting isn't that smooth - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Vincenttam · 07-21-2014, 05:41 AM

So i've been driving manual for almost a year now but thats not my problem. My fr-s is my first manual car and i haven't really driven many others. So my question is, is it normal for the gears to not be super smooth when shifting in? I mean i don't have to force it in, but is it normal for it to literally kind of click into gear when I'm shifting up? My buddy let my drive his 2015 wrx the other day and that thing shifted like a knife through butter. Same with my other buddies s2k.

DarkSunrise · 07-21-2014, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincenttam

So i've been driving manual for almost a year now but thats not my problem. My fr-s is my first manual car and i haven't really driven many others. So my question is, is it normal for the gears to not be super smooth when shifting in? I mean i don't have to force it in, but is it normal for it to literally kind of click into gear when I'm shifting up? My buddy let my drive his 2015 wrx the other day and that thing shifted like a knife through butter. Same with my other buddies s2k.

The FR-S transmission is definitely notchy. Some people like that feeling of positive engagement, others don't. My old 350z and Boxster S were much smoother going into gear (almost no resistance), and personally I preferred that, although I know others like some feedback/notchiness when they shift.

But in any event, it should just be one notch going into any gear. If you have multiple notches (i.e., stick in a box of rocks), your syncros may need to be replaced.

Reaper · 07-21-2014, 08:57 AM

^^^i concure and its pretty common and well known. Some call it notchy, toyota calls it positive engagement. I personally like it, other than the occasional 5th gear syncro grind some of us are getting now around 10k miles. Once you have a few thousand on it, put some good fluid in it. I use amsoil gear lube.

dem00n · 07-21-2014, 09:00 AM

I'm sure his tranny is fine. Gotta use smooth movements on the clutch and shifting. Yes, certain trannys are smoother than others. It could also be your driving position, is your leg comfortable when you compress the clutch all the way?

We could sit here all day and say this and that, but the only way to get better ins practice. Self conscious practice, take note of everything. Learning some technical knowledge on the manual transmission and the clutch it self could improve your shifting as well.

Herndon · 07-21-2014, 09:45 AM

Put a weighted shift knob on it. I have a Raceseng Ashiko and it is a world of difference from stock. Their Slammer know is nice too. Though after being used to a short shifter notchy feel i'm probably going to re-install one again with the weighted knob

Cliu91 · 07-21-2014, 10:00 AM

Should have bought an auto.

serialk11r · 07-21-2014, 10:13 AM

Double clutch it, it'll slide in like butter.

King Tut · 07-21-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper

Once you have a few thousand on it, put some good fluid in it. I sell amsoil gear lube.

fixt.

Reaper · 07-21-2014, 12:23 PM

Hey now! Trying to get me in trouble?

cdrazic93 · 07-21-2014, 01:24 PM

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Hey now! Trying to get me in trouble?

Yep lol. Would shifter bushings or tranny mount bushings effect this notching in the shift pattern?

King Tut · 07-21-2014, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper

Hey now! Trying to get me in trouble?

Who doesn't sell Amsoil products?

Vincenttam · 07-23-2014, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Herndon

Put a weighted shift knob on it. I have a Raceseng Ashiko and it is a world of difference from stock. Their Slammer know is nice too. Though after being used to a short shifter notchy feel i'm probably going to re-install one again with the weighted knob

Omg yes i want the Raceseng Ashiko. But thank goodness it wasn't just me shifting oddly.

07-21-2014, 05:41 AM	#1
Vincenttam WtsTofu Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: Ultramarine fr-s Location: Los Angeles? Posts: 1,348 Thanks: 368 Thanked 575 Times in 336 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	New to manual driving, shifting isn't that smooth So i've been driving manual for almost a year now but thats not my problem. My fr-s is my first manual car and i haven't really driven many others. So my question is, is it normal for the gears to not be super smooth when shifting in? I mean i don't have to force it in, but is it normal for it to literally kind of click into gear when I'm shifting up? My buddy let my drive his 2015 wrx the other day and that thing shifted like a knife through butter. Same with my other buddies s2k. __________________ ig:Vinshiin

07-21-2014, 08:57 AM	#3
Reaper in orbe terrum non visi Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: violent Location: Mountains Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 279 Thanked 762 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 62 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	^^^i concure and its pretty common and well known. Some call it notchy, toyota calls it positive engagement. I personally like it, other than the occasional 5th gear syncro grind some of us are getting now around 10k miles. Once you have a few thousand on it, put some good fluid in it. I use amsoil gear lube. __________________ I have E85 where there isn't E85, that's my secret. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=reaper+build

07-21-2014, 09:00 AM	#4
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm sure his tranny is fine. Gotta use smooth movements on the clutch and shifting. Yes, certain trannys are smoother than others. It could also be your driving position, is your leg comfortable when you compress the clutch all the way? We could sit here all day and say this and that, but the only way to get better ins practice. Self conscious practice, take note of everything. Learning some technical knowledge on the manual transmission and the clutch it self could improve your shifting as well. __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

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Reaper in orbe terrum non visi Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: violent Location: Mountains Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 279 Thanked 762 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 62 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Hey now! Trying to get me in trouble? __________________ I have E85 where there isn't E85, that's my secret. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=reaper+build

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Herndon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2014 SWP BRZ Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 103 Thanks: 23 Thanked 41 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Put a weighted shift knob on it. I have a Raceseng Ashiko and it is a world of difference from stock. Their Slammer know is nice too. Though after being used to a short shifter notchy feel i'm probably going to re-install one again with the weighted knob

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