Clutch pedal loud squeak - Page 32 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

bhbnuckle · 07-01-2016, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkazn58

I recently brought in my BRZ for a squeaky clutch too. It always squeaked at the bottom of travel after the transmission warmed up. What they did was adjust the clutch engagement point. Their technician stated that the clutch was out of adjustment and that off the factory line the assembly is "too tight".

So now the travel distance & feel of my clutch is completely different. The engagement point is near the bottom of travel unlike before where it was around the middle. Not anywhere remotely as much feedback as before. The travel distance went significantly down from whatever stock was down to 3.5". I measured this from the top of the pedal from bottom of travel to the top of travel. BUT, the squeak is gone.

Has anyone else had their dealership perform this fix? Any experiences you can share?

Sorry for popping out old post!
Is ure squeaky ever came back after adjusting the engagement point?
thanks!

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SuperDave · 08-24-2016, 06:31 PM

Taking my car in for this issue tomorrow. Hopefully they just use a better grease tomorrow or something simple.

Ultramaroon · 08-25-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave

They told me they suspect it's my pressure plate. I don't know how or what it does but hopefully the noise goes away.

Does your squeak correspond with pedal movement? Does it squeak while the engine is not running?

SuperDave · 08-25-2016, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Does your squeak correspond with pedal movement? Does it squeak while the engine is not running?

yes, it squeaks when the engine is off, and doesn't go away when the engine is warm. it sqeaks going in and pulling out.

Ultramaroon · 08-25-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave

yes, it squeaks when the engine is off, and doesn't go away when the engine is warm. it sqeaks going in and pulling out.

That's not the pressure plate but it's still a win for you if they will drop the transmission. Hopefully they clean everything in there before lubing the pivots.

It's only been a couple months since I cleaned mine but the clutch is smooth as silk.

Stang70Fastback · 08-25-2016, 07:50 PM

I suppose I should update this thread. Brought my car in for the pedal creaking in the latter half of pedal travel (both directions) - most notably after the car had warmed up a bit.

I brought it in (34,500 miles), told them I thought the throw-out bearing was going bad, and they took the car into the shop and poked around, this is the progression of events:

"Sir, it seems like your issue is the clutch. The mechanic thinks you might have a hot spot, which is what could be causing that creak."

"Okay, well can you explain to me how that hot spot causes the same creak sound to occur when the engine is off?"

*service rep goes away; comes back 5 minutes later*

"Yeah, it seems like your throw-out bearing is ALSO going bad. We are ordering new parts."

*I take the car back, and come back a week later to have the work done.*

End result: I received a brand new throw-out bearing, new pressure plate, new flywheel, and new clutch disk. A different mechanic did the work, and told me that the clutch "showed some wear, but was otherwise fine." So sounds like it wasn't the clutch at all, but instead the TOB. The mechanic told me that the throwout bearing going bad had caused the pressure plate fingers to start making noise too? Not entirely sure.

All I know is the clutch feels ENTIRELY different now, and SO much better. It's so much smoother it strikes me just when I get in the car and depress the clutch to start it. Clutch engagement is buttery smooth now, and it just feels WAY better. One issue I had been having was that sometimes when I went to change gears, taking it out of gear was a bit rough and "thunky"... almost as if I hadn't entirely disengaged the clutch before yanking it out of gear. I thought I was just being retarded (this is my first manual) but that is gone now, so I think whatever was going on in there was maybe affecting how the clutch engaged (which would explain why it is much smoother now.)

Can anyone theorize and explain exactly what might have been going on in there? One of the reasons I prefer to work on my own car is because I like to understand what was happening.

Ultramaroon · 08-25-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

Can anyone theorize and explain exactly what might have been going on in there? One of the reasons I prefer to work on my own car is because I like to understand what was happening.

Just sounds to me like there was a whole lot of hand waving going on to explain why they threw so many parts at it.

Cleaning and re-lubing under the bell housing made all the difference in the world. I know my TOB was hanging up, sticking against the snout which did make my clutch less controllable. At times I was afraid to push it hard to the floor for fear of breaking the fork.

Go back, take another look at the pictures I uploaded, and realize that shit ceased being a lubricant a long time ago. It truly was a sticky rosin-like substance that also captured material from the disc.

This is classic lubricant failure, nothing more.

SuperDave · 08-25-2016, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Just sounds to me like there was a whole lot of hand waving going on to explain why they threw so many parts at it.

Cleaning and re-lubing under the bell housing made all the difference in the world. I know my TOB was hanging up, sticking against the snout which did make my clutch less controllable. At times I was afraid to push it hard to the floor for fear of breaking the fork.

Go back, take another look at the pictures I uploaded, and realize that shit ceased being a lubricant a long time ago. It truly was a sticky rosin-like substance that also captured material from the disc.

This is classic lubricant failure, nothing more.

I showed them your post and everything and they said the lubricant was fine, but with techs, you never know, the manager said my clutch was done for...but the service advisor said otherwise.

Ultramaroon · 08-25-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave

I showed them your post and everything and they said the lubricant was fine, but with techs, you never know, the manager said my clutch was done for...but the service advisor said otherwise.

Haha... Did they have the transmission out at the time? Ask them to see it. It's your car, right?

SuperDave · 08-26-2016, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Haha... Did they have the transmission out at the time? Ask them to see it. It's your car, right?

I'll do it next time, I've got another appointment next week. This next time I'll stick around to inspect it but I don't know what their protocol is. I don't want to be that overly pushy customer but i also don't want to be gypped.

Ultramaroon · 08-26-2016, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave

I'll do it next time, I've got another appointment next week. This next time I'll stick around to inspect it but I don't know what their protocol is. I don't want to be that overly pushy customer but i also don't want to be gypped.

There's no way they could tell you anything about the condition of the lube without actually removing the transmission, which takes at least a couple hours of labor.

To be more blunt - those dismissive fucks are feeding you a line of shit. Fucking assholes.

SuperDave · 08-26-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

There's no way they could tell you anything about the condition of the lube without actually removing the transmission, which takes at least a couple hours of labor.

To be more blunt - those dismissive fucks are feeding you a line of shit. Fucking assholes.

Well, they did drop the transmission because i had to bring the car in for a secondary inspection. That's what they told me. Otherwise how could they have diagnosed the pressure plate as the culprit and look at the throwout bearing and the clutch?

Ultramaroon · 08-26-2016, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave

Well, they did drop the transmission because i had to bring the car in for a secondary inspection. That's what they told me. Otherwise how could they have diagnosed the pressure plate as the culprit and look at the throwout bearing and the clutch?

Between the first time you took in the car to them telling you "it's not the lube," how long did it take? Minutes, hours?

SuperDave · 08-26-2016, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Between the first time you took in the car to them telling you "it's not the lube," how long did it take? Minutes, hours?

3-4 hours

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Stang70Fastback A.K.A. Starlord Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2015 Series.Blue Location: Illinois Posts: 1,842 Thanks: 845 Thanked 2,099 Times in 834 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I suppose I should update this thread. Brought my car in for the pedal creaking in the latter half of pedal travel (both directions) - most notably after the car had warmed up a bit. I brought it in (34,500 miles), told them I thought the throw-out bearing was going bad, and they took the car into the shop and poked around, this is the progression of events: "Sir, it seems like your issue is the clutch. The mechanic thinks you might have a hot spot, which is what could be causing that creak." "Okay, well can you explain to me how that hot spot causes the same creak sound to occur when the engine is off?" service rep goes away; comes back 5 minutes later "Yeah, it seems like your throw-out bearing is ALSO going bad. We are ordering new parts." I take the car back, and come back a week later to have the work done. End result: I received a brand new throw-out bearing, new pressure plate, new flywheel, and new clutch disk. A different mechanic did the work, and told me that the clutch "showed some wear, but was otherwise fine." So sounds like it wasn't the clutch at all, but instead the TOB. The mechanic told me that the throwout bearing going bad had caused the pressure plate fingers to start making noise too? Not entirely sure. All I know is the clutch feels ENTIRELY different now, and SO much better. It's so much smoother it strikes me just when I get in the car and depress the clutch to start it. Clutch engagement is buttery smooth now, and it just feels WAY better. One issue I had been having was that sometimes when I went to change gears, taking it out of gear was a bit rough and "thunky"... almost as if I hadn't entirely disengaged the clutch before yanking it out of gear. I thought I was just being retarded (this is my first manual) but that is gone now, so I think whatever was going on in there was maybe affecting how the clutch engaged (which would explain why it is much smoother now.) Can anyone theorize and explain exactly what might have been going on in there? One of the reasons I prefer to work on my own car is because I like to understand what was happening.

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