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Old 12-20-2012, 07:45 PM   #1
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NorCal (Bay Area) AutoX Thread!

I wanted to start a thread for local autoX events. I run in many of the events down in Marina but I'm also going to start tracking down some other local SCCA events for stiffer in class competition.

This thread can be used to let others no about events, coordinate caravans do events and promote the FR-S through the cheapest motorsport in the world!

Almost every local club/SCCA events can be found here: http://www.baautox.com/forum/index.p...frm_id=2&rid=0

Happy Cone Killing!

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nice, I see a lot of the SCCA events for 2013 will be at Oakland... that makes it more likely for me to go as opposed to Marina. I realize the surface is much better at Marina but Oakland is conveniently close.
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Here's a weird question. What class would a BRZ or FR-S be in once they go F/I? SM?
I would go ask this over in the track section as I'm not even sure. It may be SM.
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nice, I see a lot of the SCCA events for 2013 will be at Oakland... that makes it more likely for me to go as opposed to Marina. I realize the surface is much better at Marina but Oakland is conveniently close.
I've actaully never been to Oakland but I want to (and will). I've done many many many events in Marina and will prob continue that.
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SM from my experience is usually dominated by 450WHP STi/EVOs and other crazy shit!
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This is great, subscribed! Used to have a bunch at the naval base in Alameda but I don't see them anymore.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:41 PM   #8
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Good idea, Blaine -- maybe the mods can sticky this (and one for SoCal as well)?

Regarding classing: Don't let uncertainty stop you. You'll be competing against other novices. It's very likely that someone in a Civic who has done this once before will be faster than you are your first time out.

If you decide to try it, you'll probably be in one of two classes:

C Stock -- competes against similarly prepared RX-8s, Miatas, Solstices, 370Zs, etc. If your car is pretty much as you drove it home from the dealer, this is your class. You can use any tire that fits on a stock-size wheel, and you can change your exhaust from the cat back. You can do a performance alignment (including the camber bolts). You can change your front sway bar OR your rear sway bar. You can upgrade the shocks, but coilovers aren't allowed. The engine, brakes, body and interior are stock.

STX -- competes against BMWs, prepped RX-8s, WRXs, etc. If you have coilovers, new seats or an intake, this is probably your class. You can also do a full exhaust, clutch-type diff, control arms, bushings, header, high-flow cat and a tune.

If *you* add F/I to your car, it would certainly skip Stock or ST* classing and go into SM. If Subaru or Toyota offers a factory F/I model, it would go through a classing process similar to that for the N/A version, and the same rules regarding tires and shocks and exhaust would apply. For example, the stock Focus is an H Stock car but the turbocharged ST model is G Stock.

How can a novice in an FRS compete against a novice in a Porsche? There is an indexing system that says "this class of car should be X percent faster than this class of car."

Your C Stock BRZ would be expected to be proportionately faster than an H Stock Civic, for example. Your time would be multiplied by .833, and the HS car's time would be multiplied by .799. If he turns in a time of 60 seconds, you would have to run a 57.5 to win.

Once you have a few events under your belt, you can move up to "open" classes, where you can compete only against other C Stock or STX drivers. There it is head to head competition, with no indexing.

This is great fun, and relatively cheap ($35). Ask for help and you'll get faster.
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And this is what Oakland looks like -- this was a pretty short course but otherwise fairly typical.

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Thanks for the info Des! I hope to see you again at autoX soon!
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I will be at Marina on Tuesday, New Year's Day. I had a great time at Oakland's last event and met Des (thanks Des, btw, for the pointers). Even with the short course, an early goof of the line gave me an excuse to let it drift for a run, which was nice...

Eric G

EDIT. Looks like Marina's 1 and 2 events are cancelled. I just got home from a visit in the Midwest (where I would never drive my FR-S as a DD) and was operating on old information/data.

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Old 12-30-2012, 07:02 PM   #12
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I couldn't go anyway (gotta watching Michigan GO BLUE!).

Why'd the events get cancelled? I'll be in full blown autoX mode on the weekends in late feb, I've just got a bunch of random stuff sucking up all my weekends for the new few or so.
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I just signed up for a performance driving school on the 26th in Fresno. The Fresno chapter of SCCA is hosting the event. I know we have a few members located in the central valley. Link to the event flyer is posted below for those interested.

http://fresnoscca.com/pdf/2013_event...ing_School.pdf
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btw can you guys confirm that 225 is the widest tires we can go with this car @ c stock?

I am in the middle of prepping my first track event and I am not too sure whether I should go with 225 or 235. I do autocross occasionally so I want to keep my track tires to be compatible with the c stock regulation.
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