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Old 03-17-2013, 06:50 PM   #99
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Anyone else see a probelm with almost all the easy weight to shed being out back? Sure you can drop 70 lbs for free but with it all being in the rear wouldnt that make it even more tailhappy? Thats cool if thats what your going for but if your looking for better balance you should be looking for weight off the front end.
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Anyone else see a probelm with almost all the easy weight to shed being out back? Sure you can drop 70 lbs for free but with it all being in the rear wouldnt that make it even more tailhappy? Thats cool if thats what your going for but if your looking for better balance you should be looking for weight off the front end.
It's usually like that though, isn't it? What's there to remove from in front of the center line of the car? Lightweight buckets will always find their way into people's cars, but even that is removing weight from the rear, technically. A lighweight battery, headers, washer fluid, wheels/tires, brakes, perhaps control arms (if you look at RacerX arms they're just a touch heavier than stock, as were RCE's protos). It just doesn't seem there's much to shave up front.
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Agreed, it's definitely harder to shave weight up front. I look at it though as weight is weight. If you shed in the rear and it gets to prone to oversteer you can probably fix it with suspension tweaks while still having that weight off the car!
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:36 PM   #102
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Agreed, it's definitely harder to shave weight up front. I look at it though as weight is weight. If you shed in the rear and it gets to prone to oversteer you can probably fix it with suspension tweaks while still having that weight off the car!
Yea i never really looked at it that way but that makes sense. overall it should be pretty easy to get this car into the 2500 range. Even if most of that weight is coming off the back some sway bar adjustments could solve that. Off the front on a DD where you dont want to chuck the AC lightweight battery and washer fluid is about all you got. But combined thats around 30 lbs and in a car this light that will definetly make a diffrence.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:39 PM   #103
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If anyone has any great secrets for getting some weight off the nose feel free to let us know.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:18 PM   #104
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Lighter battery : lighter brakes : delete useless stuff like sound generator and plastic covers etc : lighter header : lighter bumper beam : lighter suspension parts : run lower windshield fluid or delete altogether : lighter pulleys : lighter wheel/tire combo

There is more extreme stuff too like ac delete or plasti-glass that I didn't list for a DD car.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:59 PM   #105
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Anyone else see a probelm with almost all the easy weight to shed being out back? Sure you can drop 70 lbs for free but with it all being in the rear wouldnt that make it even more tailhappy? Thats cool if thats what your going for but if your looking for better balance you should be looking for weight off the front end.
yep...our car at its lightest is 58.5% nose weight...and the balance took alot of compensation to maintain.
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thank you for your time to provide all these valuable data
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:14 AM   #107
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It's usually like that though, isn't it? What's there to remove from in front of the center line of the car? Lightweight buckets will always find their way into people's cars, but even that is removing weight from the rear, technically. A lighweight battery, headers, washer fluid, wheels/tires, brakes, perhaps control arms (if you look at RacerX arms they're just a touch heavier than stock, as were RCE's protos). It just doesn't seem there's much to shave up front.
My FLCA's save 6 lbs off the nose!
and are completely adjustable in all 3 planes.
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Old 03-26-2013, 03:28 PM   #108
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speaking of dropping weight off the nose anyone looked into a lightweight radiator? I saw a Koyo one for our cars, what type of a drop is there in that?
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Good idea, but just FYI, you cannot consider just overall radiator weight. If you buy a lighter radiator but it has more water/coolant capacity it can potentially actually be heavier in real world usage due to holding more liquid.
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My FLCA's save 6 lbs off the nose!
and are completely adjustable in all 3 planes.
Where can we pick these up? Ill take 6 pounds off the nose
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Paypal is evo4fun@gmail.com 750 + freight. Includes bump steerable tirerod ends which you will need.
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2 words... sound system , would love to see how much that sucker weighs.
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