Does it look like my axle nut went bad? Clicking noise on acceleration.

[elyugi1]

going in tomorrow at 6am to get my car check now the clicking/grind sound are more frequent. hopefully everything goes well..thank you guys for all your input.

[elyugi1]

got my car back they end up charging me 125 dollars they claim the sound its coming from my muffler (custom made) so they void warranty so i ask them to show me.. still waiting for them to show me.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

I'm still skeptical. Any images of this failure? Or of this axle nut not failing to perform its task?

I like to think I'm not a dummy. OE axle nut clicked and was torqued to 146 ft-lbs and was clicking, it was lubricated and retorqued, staked again, and continued to click. New nut installed, same procedure, same torque value and silence.



Hypothesize and break out all the textbooks you want, old nut clicks, fresh nut doesn't, time and time again. Maybe the grease dries out, maybe the nuts have a locking feature that wears over time and can only be retorqued a few times, bottom line is that Subaru has been selling cars with this design for decades and continue to do so because it isn't a significant problem.

Here's a thread from an STI forum detailing the problem. From 10 years ago.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/diy-mods...noise-try.html

[Hyper4mance2k]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

I'm still skeptical. Any images of this failure? Or of this axle nut not failing to perform its task?

I don't have a picture. I removed cleaned & torqued to 146 still clicked. Removed cleaned torqued to 150, still clicked. Dealer replaced it, torqued to 146 and no click.

[Hyper4mance2k]

Originally Posted by elyugi1

got my car back they end up charging me 125 dollars they claim the sound its coming from my muffler (custom made) so they void warranty so i ask them to show me.. still waiting for them to show me.

They can't void your warranty. It's illegal. No warranty can be voided. They can say that your muffler is causing the problem and charge you for the replacement, but they have to prove this in court through arbitration.

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Hypothesize and break out all the textbooks you want, old nut clicks, fresh nut doesn't, time and time again.
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/diy-mods...noise-try.html

But I want to know whyyyyyyyyy. I hate not knowing.

That thread is mind numbing.

So far:

• One guy who had the click, found out it was the axle.
• One guy removed and re-torqued, problem solved.
• One guy says the axle stub rusts causing play between the shaft and hub
• One guy has the same noise and it was caused by "fractured axles"
• One guy had the new nuts solve it, then had the problem come back 30k miles later, had to do it again. (which leads me to believe it's not a nut problem, it's a "staying fastened" problem)
• One guy has the noise return everytime he 'launches the car' so he's replacing axle nuts often.
• One guy had problem return so then before just replacing the nut he removed the axle and reinstalled it, then put on the new nut. Lots of launches, no click.

I'm confident that replacing a nut is a band-aid over a symptom as opposed to a cure for the underlying reason. Just want to know the underlying reason. The suspense is killing me!

[Teseo]

Ordered the nut, now need wait next week to drop the car. Hope this solve the problem

[stokeless]

I have the same issue, clicking on accel almost all the time... I loosen the axle nut and re-torque it, although it didn't fix the clicking sound, I only hear it in occasion.

[elyugi1]

once i get Home ill take a picture of the paper they gave me...

[elyugi1]

thats what they gave me. but im pretty sure its not my muffler delete.

anotherthing i dont have a after exhaust.
i only have a muffler delete does that count as a after market exhaust? what can i do now? going to install the original back on

another thing i wasnt present for the test drive.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by elyugi1

thats what they gave me. but im pretty sure its not my muffler delete.

anotherthing i dont have a after exhaust.
i only have a muffler delete does that count as a after market exhaust? what can i do now? going to install the original back on

another thing i wasnt present for the test drive.

They just charged you $125 to give you the runaround and sit on their asses over spending 15 minutes doing the fix. You could have bought a jack, torque wrench, and the correct sized socket and done it yourself. Not to mention time wasted calling them, driving over, leaving your car, and getting it back unfixed. And who knows, it could be the exhaust and they've just diagnosed it properly.



Either go back to stock on the exhaust and try again or find a new dealership. Or find a local forum member who will help you DIY.

@Hyper4mance2k how do you get that survey thingy to shit all over them so they'll be nice to you again? Appears Lugi didn't get one.

[Hyper4mance2k]

All they said was that they think it was your exhaust making the noise, and that the exhaust is not covered under warranty. Call Toyota corporate... Maybe they're right. I haven't heard your car. Maybe it isn't the axle and maybe it's the exhaust hitting something. When mine was bad, they told me it wasn't the nut. I told them they were wrong. I did the same thing in the garage that I did in my video. Then I told them to fix my car, or we can fix it in arbitration. 30 minutes later I had a new nut, and I went home.
http://www.toyota.com/support/contact-us

Take your car to a different shop that isn't going to charge you for an inspection. 99% of shops will not charge you. Get an estimate from them showing that it's the axle. Go back to Toyota with your 2nd opinion. Tell them to give you your money back and to fix your damn car... @elyugi1 Where do you live? Judging by your grammar, English isn't your first language. Maybe there's someone local who will go in with you and help you out. If you were local to me, I would go with you.

[Hyper4mance2k]

Originally Posted by elyugi1

thats what they gave me. but im pretty sure its not my muffler delete.

anotherthing i dont have a after exhaust.
i only have a muffler delete does that count as a after market exhaust? what can i do now? going to install the original back on

another thing i wasnt present for the test drive.

If it's not stock, it's after market.

No manufacturer can void your warranty. They are in violation of the law just by putting tha in writing. They can tell you that they aftermarket exhaust is not covered under warranty.

Look it up. How do people go through life uninformed?
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides...s/undermag.htm

You should have not payed them a penny, and you should have not left without getting your car fixed. By paying them for absolutely nothing, you legally agreed to their diagnosis that it was your muffler making the noise. You now have very few other options. Didn't you read anything else I posted?

[elyugi1]

Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k

All they said was that they think it was your exhaust making the noise, and that the exhaust is not covered under warranty. Call Toyota corporate... Maybe they're right. I haven't heard your car. Maybe it isn't the axle and maybe it's the exhaust hitting something. When mine was bad, they told me it wasn't the nut. I told them they were wrong. I did the same thing in the garage that I did in my video. Then I told them to fix my car, or we can fix it in arbitration. 30 minutes later I had a new nut, and I went home.
http://www.toyota.com/support/contact-us

Take your car to a different shop that isn't going to charge you for an inspection. 99% of shops will not charge you. Get an estimate from them showing that it's the axle. Go back to Toyota with your 2nd opinion. Tell them to give you your money back and to fix your damn car... @elyugi1 Where do you live? Judging by your grammar, English isn't your first language. Maybe there's someone local who will go in with you and help you out. If you were local to me, I would go with you.

los angeles , CA to bad im not on your area. will go back to stock muffler and see if that take care of the sound. *hopefuly*