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Old 09-18-2017, 01:51 AM   #8023
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when i checked with bill and zach at delicious tuning about this, i was told don't waste my money.

Mmmm that surprises me somewhat as I thought the less restriction you have when sucking air through an opening the better and as the more restrictive it is the more heat generated for a given boost pressure.

I could understand that reasoning with say a turbo as it is far easier to compress / push a set quantity of through say a TB / opening than pull/suck the same quantity through the same TB / opening .

From what I understand the more energy required to pull that air through the opening the more heat generated so the Grams TB should be a benefit in this (Sprintex) application .
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:03 AM   #8024
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Hi,guys. I'm really looking into get a used innovate 210 SC for my 2013 FRS. Is there any different between the old innovate kits and the new 210 sprintex kits? What should I pay attention to purchasing used old innovate kits?
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Hi,guys. I'm really looking into get a used innovate 210 SC for my 2013 FRS. Is there any different between the old innovate kits and the new 210 sprintex kits? What should I pay attention to purchasing used old innovate kits?
They're essentially the same. at some point the design was updated to add a sight glass, but that's it.

you're going to want to make sure it doesn't use too much oil, although i'm sure someone here can give you a better recommendation on how to do that.
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Mmmm that surprises me somewhat as I thought the less restriction you have when sucking air through an opening the better and as the more restrictive it is the more heat generated for a given boost pressure.

I could understand that reasoning with say a turbo as it is far easier to compress / push a set quantity of through say a TB / opening than pull/suck the same quantity through the same TB / opening .

From what I understand the more energy required to pull that air through the opening the more heat generated so the Grams TB should be a benefit in this (Sprintex) application .
Is it really worth the extra 2hp? Up to you.
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They're essentially the same. at some point the design was updated to add a sight glass, but that's it.

you're going to want to make sure it doesn't use too much oil, although i'm sure someone here can give you a better recommendation on how to do that.

Too much oil referring as supercharger oil or engine oil? I will have a professional shop to help me install the kits.
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Old 09-23-2017, 04:15 AM   #8028
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Is it really worth the extra 2hp? Up to you.
So somebodies already done a the Grams TB on a sprintex 210 and only got an extra 2hp?

Any further info like dyno chart or are they a member here as I seem to remember a post here of someone who tried it on an NA
car but not supercharged .
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:09 AM   #8029
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So somebodies already done a the Grams TB on a sprintex 210 and only got an extra 2hp?

Any further info like dyno chart or are they a member here as I seem to remember a post here of someone who tried it on an NA
car but not supercharged .
I am also a bit sceptical that a bigger throttle body for Supercharged cars won't give some kind of decent gains.

I know it did nothing for NA cars, but the superchargers are sensitive to precharger airflow. Harrop have gone for a larger throttle body on their supercharged track car which is putting down 420whp, and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a larger TB for the next Cosworth release.

It seems like a good way of getting more boost without putting more parasitic strain on the engine. But we need proof.....
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Old 09-26-2017, 11:15 AM   #8030
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Does anyone know if the 210 SPS is still on sale? I can't really seem to find it on their website and I looked in a few other places (like moto-east, ft86speedfactory etc.) and didn't see it on sale. Is it something that needs to be special ordered?
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If you open up the core these are the o rings sealing the coolant running through the core. Look at the condition on my o rings, can understand why they did not seal, causing it to leak into the manifold.
Did a quick search and couldn't find anything on the size for these orings. Anyone happen to know?
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:41 AM   #8033
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I've got my nameless intake pipe for sale (not made any more-best way to increase whine...) and 335 kit fs soon.

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Old 10-23-2017, 08:34 PM   #8034
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Took my 210 intercooled kit off after 23,000m with the supercharger. Very happy with how everything held up. Those 23,000m I had zero problems whatsoever. The only thing I noticed was the hoses that extend the throttle body heater hoses. They were starting to crack maybe something for you guys to check or keep an eye on


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Does anyone know if the 210 SPS is still on sale? I can't really seem to find it on their website and I looked in a few other places (like moto-east, ft86speedfactory etc.) and didn't see it on sale. Is it something that needs to be special ordered?
Went for a ride in an SPs equipped car 2 nights ago... itís awesome... and Iím busy ordering mine now.
So yes, it is special order, but IMO worth a little extra dosh.
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