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10-30-2013, 01:18 PM | #15 |
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Please bring back mechanical controls........drive by wire stuff is bad......nothing wrong with cables or push rods
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10-30-2013, 01:24 PM | #16 |
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Amen my brother. Continue fighting the good fight and preach the greatness that is throttle cables.
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Of all the studies of the software & ECU, not a single one even mentioned the Cruise control. I have a Solara (Camry) and on the mechanical throttle body, there are TWO cables. One is pulled by the pedal and the other is pulled by the cruise control actuator. In one of the cases of UA, the driver stated that when the car took off, the gas pedal fell to the floor without being pressed. This is EXACTLY what happens if the cruise control actuator takes over. IT pulls the throttle open which causes the gas pedal cable to go slack. I cannot believe they did not even consider the "secondary" system to be the culprit.... |
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I can't wait for driver less cars so I can start hacking into ECUs and direct hot women into into garage. By then I will be a creepy old man so it will be even better.
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I also would have thought that a smarter ECU design would be a SoC with an FPGA or custom hardware to process some of the time critical stuff in real time. This would be much better than using assembly. |
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If I get pulled over for speeding, this will be my defense: "Toyota's killer firmware". Not my fault.
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But yeah the models involved in the UA cases were all drive by wire. |
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Yes I bought a Solara. I was a diehard Toyota fan after having 3 Supras & one Cressida. My requirement was front wheel drive, Auto, Traction Control, because at the time I had a commute of 2-3 hours a day in winter conditions. (Supras do NOT like snow)
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I think some of you experts should actually take the lid off as modern ecu and look inside.
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In accordance to US law rules is possible to gain access to all papers? Maybe useful to understand WHERE and HOW exactly sw bugs are so wide to cause failure for system
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UA = driver error
Always has been, always will be. End of story. |
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