2016 Ford GT press release

[Tcoat]

Let's be honest here. The people that buy these cars have one of each of the others anyway. Doesn't matter what they could get for less they would just buy both. Nobody is running out and getting financing for these.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by TommyW

A big nasty V8 would have been better IMO however I'm sure weight was the issue

Looking at it, aerodynamics and packaging probably played a big role in the V6 being chosen. Weight can be taken out elsewhere, power can be added, but shaving a few inches off the overall dimensions is huge, getting the tail end to taper so aggressively probably would not have been possible with a V8.

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

but this car was designed race car first then road car.

Thank god, I haven't given a shit about a Ferrari built in my lifetime because they've all been designed to be grand tourers with all the pretty numbers put up by specially set up examples. Seems like Ferrari gave up on racecar first, road car second with the F40, and Porsche unabashedly makes road cars first racecars second (which is not a knock against them, it's their philosophy and serves them well).

I also didn't give a shit about the last Ford GT for the exact same reason, the thing was basically an investment car from day one, what a fucking snooze. Sculptures need less maintenance and look prettier. And hell, some of the sculptures go down the road better given the reputation for reliability the super high end cars have.

Yeah sure, I'll probably never own one or drive one, but I'm glad they said 'fuck marketing, go build a racecar, we'll figure out how to sell it later'. Ferrari can manufacture demand via choking supply, there's no reason Ford can't do it too. And yes, you can certainly get more performance/$, but that's not the point of this car. Just like the 86 there's a niche this thing targeted and so far it looks like it's nailing it.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

what a fucking snooze.

I don't know if that's or

[Irace86.2.0]

People are also buying a piece of history. The car will only go up in value.

[Gunman]

BRZ fits right in with the exotics, and it gets to go home with me

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Yeah. Little old boutique manufacturer McLaren will sell you a 720S for $150,000 less that undercuts the GT in weight AND has almost 80 more horsepower. Since when is McLaren the cheap option?

When you are comparing a car designed to race in LeMans vs a street car?

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

When you are comparing a car designed to race in LeMans vs a street car?

Well, because they're selling them to the general public for $500,000 (plus whatever premiums) for driving/collectiong/whatever. And most of us don't get to drive at LeMans

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

When you are comparing a car designed to race in LeMans vs a street car?

Uhhh, all the more reason that the GT should be lighter!

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Uhhh, all the more reason that the GT should be lighter!

Once you start adding in all the b.s. that NHTSA requires to be turnkey street legal, the pounds add up. Crash beams, air bags, etc. We built a Mosler MT900 "Photon" that weighed in under 2000 lbs, but it would not pass the crash tests. Certified version ended up being 2600 lbs

GTLM cars have to be 2745 lbs minimum, and BoP will alter that. You know Multimatic designed the car to be as close to the min weight as possible, probably below. So tack on the crash required weight, and you're up 3045 lbs easy.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Uhhh, all the more reason that the GT should be lighter!

Reaaly? It needs more power and to be lighter to drive on the street? REALLY? Shit, I would love to know where you guys drive that the GT just is not enough as is.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Gunman

Once you start adding in all the b.s. that NHTSA requires to be turnkey street legal, the pounds add up. Crash beams, air bags, etc. We built a Mosler MT900 "Photon" that weighed in under 2000 lbs, but it would not pass the crash tests. Certified version ended up being 2600 lbs

GTLM cars have to be 2745 lbs minimum, and BoP will alter that. You know Multimatic designed the car to be as close to the min weight as possible, probably below. So tack on the crash required weight, and you're up 3045 lbs easy.

They have to at least pretend that people have a chance when they wrap the street driven car around a pole at 300mph.
In the end most crashes with that sort of car negate all the safety precautions anyway though.

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Well, because they're selling them to the general public for $500,000 (plus whatever premiums) for driving/collectiong/whatever. And most of us don't get to drive at LeMans

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Uhhh, all the more reason that the GT should be lighter!

So based on these responses its clear you guys dont have a real understanding of what it takes to make a car that can race for hours on end.

Comparing cars on hp and price point is pretty shallow and senseless.

Its like saying Toyota is soooooo stupid for making a $28k FRS with only 200hp when I can go buy a Ford Focus ST with over 260hp for $24k.

The Ford GT has a F1 style suspension, that is not something you are going to get on that McLaren, and its not cheap or easy to design.

There are a lot of factors that go into the pricing of a car.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

So based on these responses its clear you guys dont have a real understanding of what it takes to make a car that can race for hours on end.

Comparing cars on hp and price point is pretty shallow and senseless.

Its like saying Toyota is soooooo stupid for making a $28k FRS with only 200hp when I can go buy a Ford Focus ST with over 260hp for $24k.

The Ford GT has a F1 style suspension, that is not something you are going to get on that McLaren, and its not cheap or easy to design.

There are a lot of factors that go into the pricing of a car.

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

So based on these responses its clear you guys dont have a real understanding of what it takes to make a car that can race for hours on end.

Comparing cars on hp and price point is pretty shallow and senseless.

Its like saying Toyota is soooooo stupid for making a $28k FRS with only 200hp when I can go buy a Ford Focus ST with over 260hp for $24k.

The Ford GT has a F1 style suspension, that is not something you are going to get on that McLaren, and its not cheap or easy to design.

There are a lot of factors that go into the pricing of a car.

Uh. What? I see you quoted me but not sure how my points are contrary to your points? I basically just said I wouldn't pay $500,000+ for this car, it doesn't sound good enough for me and I don't need a race car on the road. YMMV??